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Originally posted by ssmumich00:

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I wish they made projectors for the 9006 setup in our cars, I've contacted soo many places, and hey all say that since the car was discontinued, innovation went with it. . .so, Josch, how do you "weather-proof" a retrofit? I used electrical tape to cover the exposed portions, but the bulbs are sealed in the 9006 socket, and the ballast assembly is out of water's way for the most part (unless I drove through a flood). . .



I realize that you can't get projector light fixtures for these Contours. But that's the BEST part about it. I know that I have the only car in my town, or even my state that looks like mine does. That's the main reason why I never would (nor did), settle for a Honda Civic or an Acura Integra or somethin, because, around where I come from, they all are starting to look the same. They all have the standard 'wing' mod, clear corners, same ground effects kits, and APC projector headlights (w/ the crappiest beam pattern in town). Lame. You'd almost think they came stock that way since I see so many modded ones that look just like the next one. Seriously many of the modded Hondas here look the SAME. Reminds me of the big CAMARO fad that passed in the 70s and 80s, and everyone got one, and put the same Crager 5 stars on them. LAME. I don't want to look like everyone else. I was into 5.0L Mustangs back in like 1985-on (before they became trendy), and they were SO cool. Awesome platform to build from (I used to drag race them), until about 10 years later, when I was on my 5th one and started realizing everyone was getting one and copying me. Same rims, same ground effects, Flowmasters, etc. Lame again. That's where I had to draw the line and do what I like for myself again. Independance, and desire to be different. So I got rid of the Stang (AND my big hi-po stash of extra performance parts), and got me a newer Contour (at the time, it was newer). And I still like to do the mods that will make ME happy and make me feel different. I don't know where I get that perhaps silly instinct of mine from. I guess many of us want to be different, and some just don't care? But there's something to be said about the DIYer. Anyways, enough said on that. Make your own projectors for your car. It's a learning experience, helps you to hone in your abilities, get good with your hands, and you get the sense of gradification in the end of knowing you did it yourself.
As far as weatherproofing goes, mine was a unique situation, because I had to seal around the bulb/ cable connector area, plus seal around the seem of the projector to the hole I made where it fits into the back of the stock lowbeam Contour fixture from the car. I made a special boot that seals around the plug and bulb area behind the projector unit's reflector. It was made from boots I found at a wrecking yard. And I had to make a custom formed base out of aluminum foil to form around the seem where the projector meets the light fixture (to create a solid surface to be able to bond to. Then I used JB Weld and went over the top of the foil, and built it up, filling it in, overlapping the JB Weld slightly onto the reflector side and partly onto the projector unit side. That whole process worked SLICK for sealing around the projector seem. It was then airtight. But as a final precaution, I put silicone sealant over the entire bonded area overlapping it too around the whole seem. I wish I had a pic of it. I ought to take a pic of it. It turned out nice. But as far as the ballasts go, you should preferably mount them with the vent hole downward, and they usually don't have water issues because they have gaskets on the side covers to seal them. But venthole is the only area moisture could potentially get in. Hope this helps answer you Q

Originally posted by Antonio Wright:

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Originally posted by Mondeo V6:

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4100K in a halogen headlamp=yellow output BUT brighter than 6000K 9Sill whiter than halogen though)

6000K in a halogen headlamp=blue output BUT not as many Lumans as a 4100K system.

6000K Philips burners are clear,the colour change is achieved by a different mix of gases/metals etc.Ones with a blue coating will be cheap Korean 4100K burners


8000K would be purple,the output would be shite and there wouldn't be ant point!

There aren't any cars in production(in europe anyway)that come with 6000K burners(ALL have 4100K)-they don't need it,the headlamp is designed for HID and they get a BLUER output than 6000K in a halogen headlamp!

Take some advice from Nick at autolamps-online.com.
He was on the development team at philips for HID so i think he knows what he is talking about.

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And guess what autolamps-online.com kits are??? You guessed it cheap ass Korean Kits. You can say whatever you want but this picture tell it all. Autolamps-online.com and all those kits on Ebay are the same damn thing. Half ass slapped together kits. I am not knocking you boy Nick. What I am stating is that their kits are [censored]. Pictures speak louder then words and that useless garbage you are spewing.

-Antonio

For quicksilver..

What is the difference between D2R and D2S?
The main difference is the U-shaped masking on the D2R that blocks out unpredictable light in certain directions. Also, the base has different notches. D2R was developed so that Merchedes could still use their reflector based headlights. They did not want use projectors like BMW. A glare box inside the headlight could have been used, but a mask painted on the bulb must have been cheaper to make. Using a D2R in anything else than a OEM HID headlight designed for the D2R bulb makes no sense. It will only reduce output. Some HID kits comes with D2R bulbs. Some amateur kit designers will even claim that D2R genrally reduces glare in a retrofit. This is nonsense. The D2R bulb masking is around 3-4 a'clock and 8-9 o'clock when bulb is in right position. Those are not the (only) sectors that creates glare.

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Hi all, i'm new here but just had to sign up after reading some of the misinformation some of you were getting.

tell me something anthony........how did you manage to do that type of damage? that kind of damage is consistant with igniting or running the ballast without a bulb in place (or at least a defective and non fuctional one at best). i've done this a few times(accident), but never long enough to the point you have gotten yours.

you seem to blame the mishap on Nick (autolamps-online) but last time i checked, Nick doesn't make philip ballasts, Philips does. i'm sure you know that already. if you believe that you got a defective ballast (highly unlikely from what is seen in that picture, looks more like the user didn't know what he/she was doing) then you need to contact philips directly and stop trying to blame someones else for your mistakes.

that type of plug is used in oem hid applications! they wouldn't use that type of connection if they weren't reliable(philips). if you don't believe me, go right ahead to any lexus, bmw, audi, acura, nissan, honda, infinity dealer and look under the hood of an hid equipped model.

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Nice once did I blame the phillips ballast. I said the connector was the problem and YES Autolamps-online.com at one point and time USE to use that style of company. One thing I fail to realise is why in the hell you are so angry. I checked the web site and I seen that they switched to the new style connectors possibly due to hundreds of stories like mine. Next time before you go on a rampage read the post about x50 then respond.

-Antonio

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can you yourself see what is wrong with that statement you made? philips makes the ballasts AND those connectors you are blaming. Philips still uses those connectors you are blaming. don't blaming a company(autolamps) for something they did not manufacter(ballast).

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You had to attack my spelling to get your lame ass point across...: rolleyes: Well the fact is that AUTOLAMPS-ONLINE.com has to modify the plug to accept the 9006 bulb. I bet you did not know that dumbass. In regards to faulty installation I doubt that because if there was no serious flaw in the plug design I don't think Philipâ??s would have changed their design.

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name calling now? how low can you go. Philip's didn't change their design.........autolamps changed (modified) it(the connector) so they could use the ballasts with custom based bulbs (also modified from original philips design)

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Mondeo V6:

I want to thank you for ruining my goddamn thread with your relentless rants!

Why don't you try to contribute something to the original point of this thread, instead of talking smack about crap you don't even know about? Do you even own an HID kit? I am willing to venture a wild guess that you have not even seen one in person, let alone talk about them...

And another thing: Don't knock my brother Antonio! Both he and I are one of the most informed people on this site when it comes to HIDs, and both of us have had several different kits in our cars. Bet you did not know that either... Autolamps is a failed company whose only interest is making money. Cheap policy breeds garbage products!

Finally, you say this thread needs to get locked? The only thing that needs to get locked in this thread is YOU!!!


I SUGGEST YOU BUY SOME PROZAC!!

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-Milan

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he seems to be the only one here who knew what he was talking about............ i've had my share of hid experiences.........probably more then most, if not all, of you guys/gals combined (Josch and the other members of Philips Automotive Lighting forum regular members excluded). http://home.earthlink.net/~pliepl/ , just a few of the note worthy projects i've undertaken.

Autolamps provides the best kits available. i bought one from them for my VW. They gave awesome service and delivered an great product. The pic you are flashing... why does it have that connector on the end? were you trying to put a non-converted bulb into a stock headlight? my kit plugged right into to my stock wiring harness. Nick is a great guy. That burn does not look like a defect.
I have had 3 different kits in my days.... Two korean, one autolamps. There was a huge difference in quality ust between the bulb construction.
Autolamps rocks.
sean
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