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I already posted this info in Kevin's thread about HIDs. But seeing that some of you may not see it, here's some important info that you need to know:
If you are interested in installing HID in your cars, there are two different types of systems that you can get.
One is the D2S , and the other is D2R .
The correct system to buy for the Contours is the system that runs D2R bulbs The reason this is is the fact that the D2R bulbs were designed to work with headlights that utilize reflectors to deliver the light output of a headlight. The Contour headlight as you know is designed just this way.
The D2S bulbs on the other hand were designed to be used ONLY with the Projector housings, and thus with headlights that employ them to deliver the light output.
Using either bulb in the wrong setup will result in them not producing the optimal light, and the light color will not be typical of that bulb. You can say that the light quality is poor.
I have a 6000K HID kit that has D2S bulbs and was always wondering how come it didn't shine as good as a BMW or Audi HID system. I found out that the D2S bulb was never meant to be in a reflector.
I have recently started converting my headlights to projectors, and the results are incredible!
For those of you who are still skeptical, take a look at this:
http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/car-oem-hids.htm
Note that every car that uses a D2S also uses a projector and every car that uses a D2R uses a reflector.
Before those that have D2S in their cars start screaming at me, let me repeat that these bulbs will work fine, but they will never shine the way they were meant to, and thus they will not produce the light output that they are advertised to do!!
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I think it was Antonio who said he got better results with the D2S bulbs. Whether they shine the way they're supposed to, I figured since our reflector housings were never designed for HIDs in the first place, maybe the D2S bulb compensated somehow. shrug...
I got my projectors off ebay today, tested them out and they look great. Nice even pattern with a defined cut-off and only a slight hotspot. Can't wait to start cutting...
Oh and I think the URL you're looking for is this:
http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/car-oem-hid.htm
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/car-oem-hids.htm
Sorry, the page or file you're looking for is not here. 
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Originally posted by louisw:
I think it was Antonio who said he got better results with the D2S bulbs. Whether they shine the way they're supposed to, I figured since our reflector housings were never designed for HIDs in the first place, maybe the D2S bulb compensated somehow. shrug...
There is no compensation to be made. They are simply designed differently. The focal points on them are different too. Hence, when you put them in wrong settings they don't perform as good. I am almost done with my project, so soon we'll have pics...
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Originally posted by louisw:
I think it was Antonio who said he got better results with the D2S bulbs. Whether they shine the way they're supposed to, I figured since our reflector housings were never designed for HIDs in the first place, maybe the D2S bulb compensated somehow. shrug...
There is no compensation to be made. They are simply designed differently. The focal points on them are different too. Hence, when you put them in wrong settings they don't perform as good.
I am almost done with my project, so soon we'll have pics...
Let me explian in really simple terms.. This is what you will have with D2R bulbs U U just image that being your two beams. You get that because of the stipe that is on the bulb. When you have a D2S bulb you get this - - two straght lines which give the light more of a arch. I am not going to argue with you because I dont know all the techincal BS. I am just giving you straght facts. I have been using both kits for around 2 years total so I know what I am talking about. If you guys need some REAL advise goto www.suvlights.com and talk Eric. THis guy works for McCulloch which makes the best damn HID kits in the world. Autolamps.com ,etc are all BS. Again just my 2. cents. -Antonio
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I went to the website, looks like my HIDs are the Phillips 6000K without the striping (because I don't remember noticing any striping on them at all), and I haven't had any problems with them, and to corrborate Antonio's descriptions, the beam pattern for my bulbs are straight with very little U'ing. . .so, probably go with the bulb that isn't meant for our cars. . .that's what we have and it seems to work. . .what would be nice is if they make PROJECTORS. . .
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hey Milan where did you get your projectors from thanx
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Antonio, I am not going to dipute what you said above, because it is basically true.
However, I was trying to tell people that the bulbs are specifically designed to work in conjunction with respect for which optics they were made to work with.
All of you guys with D2S, pull up to a BMW, Audi, and compare the brightness of your lights. It is going to be dark purple compared to the hot pink of those cars.
To illustrate this point even further, a Lincoln Marc VIII uses a 4800K kit, with a D2R bulb. This is almost 1200K less than our 6000K, and yet they look brighter. Why? Because the focal point is picking up the most intense spot on the bulb. The D2S focal point is designed to be used by a Projector optics unit, which works in a totally different way. In addition to this, the D2S has at least 2mm lenght difference than a D2R. If you are into optics, you know that this means a difference between a light output that can bring the sun out, or one that looks like a real expensive PIAA bulb...
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Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Antonio, I am not going to dipute what you said above, because it is basically true.
However, I was trying to tell people that the bulbs are specifically designed to work in conjunction with respect for which optics they were made to work with.
All of you guys with D2S, pull up to a BMW, Audi, and compare the brightness of your lights. It is going to be dark purple compared to the hot pink of those cars.
To illustrate this point even further, a Lincoln Marc VIII uses a 4800K kit, with a D2R bulb. This is almost 1200K less than our 6000K, and yet they look brighter. Why? Because the focal point is picking up the most intense spot on the bulb. The D2S focal point is designed to be used by a Projector optics unit, which works in a totally different way. In addition to this, the D2S has at least 2mm lenght difference than a D2R. If you are into optics, you know that this means a difference between a light output that can bring the sun out, or one that looks like a real expensive PIAA bulb...
-Milan
Again, you are correct but only to a certain point. As you go HIGHER in the x000K range you are actually LOSING light performance. For example I compared my old 4x00k kit to a local 6000k kit. My kit outperformed his in lighting output. Yes his lights looked real nice with purple tint, but I did not get my lights for that. People get who get retro-fit HID kits for two reasons. 1. They want more light output so they stay in the 4000k-5100k range. (My number is not accurate.) 2. They want that BWM, Audi look. SO they get 6000k and above. I have seen 9000k kits in person and yes they look great BUT the downside is they produce the same light OUTPUT as the high end PIAA HALOGEN bulbs. Also the reason why BMW, AUDI etc are able to achieve those nice colors is due to the HEADLIGHT design not the bulb. Example... takes a look the VW passat at night. At certain angles those lights appear to be HID's but as they get closer to you they turn yellow.
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