Keep in mind even F1 drivers use TC and ABS in their race cars... the point I was making is that the TC they use is so darn expensive (read MANY times the cost of our cars) and is so customized that 'normal' drivers like us would never find the limits.
I never said bad drivers need TC or ABS, but I said my kids will have at least ABS.. if not some sort of Stbility control as well (my kids are young so that sort of thing will be common by the time they start driving)
