hey genius, I wasn't suggesting you threshold break on ice, only an IDIOT brakes like that on the ice, use your gears. . .furthermore, I got my B.S. in Ann Arbor, MI (embarassed to say after the Notre Dame debacle today, that's another story), so don't be presumptuous about anybody's driving experiences, since I've done the winter thing one too many times. . .and I never spun out even in the dead of a Michigan blizzard without the traction control, i was smart and invested in blizzaks. . .
Suneil
