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Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430554 09/10/02 04:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 305 Brockton MA C Cappuccino911_dup1 OP CEG\'er
OP Cappuccino911_dup1 CEG\'er C Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 305 Brockton MA	I appreciate the info, but I don't have an ATX. I have an MTX-75!!!! ANd by the way, it still sucks worse than Kordell Stewart!!!

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430555 09/10/02 04:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 310 Montreal, Canada C Captain Bart_dup1 CEG\'er
Captain Bart_dup1 CEG\'er C Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 310 Montreal, Canada	If the MTX-75 trannies are really so bad, why is Ford still using them? Captain Bart 1999 Black/Midnight Blue SVT #1949/2760 Built on 04/20/1999 Received on 05/07/1999 Sold on 08/03/2006

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430556 09/10/02 04:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 299 Rockford Mi USA T Terry Haines_dup1 CEG\'er
Terry Haines_dup1 CEG\'er T Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 299 Rockford Mi USA	A little FYI I have compiled from many transmission srvice/lube info etc.This is re AUTO trans oil temps. TRANSMISSION LIFE EXPECTANCY Miles Vs Temp & Issues Temp Miles Life/ E Conditions 315 degF 800 Seals & clutches burn out, oil forms carbon 295 degF 1,500 Plates slip 260 degF 5,000 Seals Harden 240 degF 10,000 Varnish forms 220 degF 20,000 195 degF 50,000 LOW HEAT = HIGH MILEAGE 175 degF 100,000 Bingo!....fit a trans temp gage then a cooler!!!!

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430557 09/10/02 04:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,163 brooklyn,ny,usa C contour_phoenix_when_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
contour_phoenix_when_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er C Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,163 brooklyn,ny,usa	Terry Haines not to be flippant but the contours do not come with an ATX temp gauge on the dash board so how is an owner to know if his ATX box is operation at too high a temperature

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430558 09/10/02 04:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,163 brooklyn,ny,usa C contour_phoenix_when_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
contour_phoenix_when_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er C Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,163 brooklyn,ny,usa	"fit a trans temp gage then a cooler!!!!" How to and how much and why has this not been mentioned to CeGers before especially the ones who complain about problems with their m/a-tx.

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430559 09/10/02 05:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 299 Rockford Mi USA T Terry Haines_dup1 CEG\'er
Terry Haines_dup1 CEG\'er T Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 299 Rockford Mi USA	What I posted is 'common' to all auto transmissions and I'm sure..if you check...a number of CEG's have fitted temp gages & extra cooler already...

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430560 09/11/02 02:53 AM
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,603 Westchester Co., NY, USA R RoadRunner_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RoadRunner_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,603 Westchester Co., NY, USA	Originally posted by contour_phoenix_when: "fit a trans temp gage then a cooler!!!!" How to and how much and why has this not been mentioned to CeGers before especially the ones who complain about problems with their m/a-tx. I have an A-Pillar with an AutoTemp Trans Oil Temp gauge. I observed the ATX Oil Temp go up to over 250 deg F while I was driving on the highway, on LEVEL ground. My dealer could only get the fluid temperature to go to 195 deg F. Without a External Oil-To-Air cooler you CANNOT get the Oil Tempo LOWER than the Engine Coolant Temp. In MOST cases the ATX Oil is actually ABSORBING heat from the radiator! This additional heat is what kills the transmission. My new ATX is going in with an external cooler now. Pete... 2004 Mercury Marauder 300A Black Clearcoat/Dark Charcoal LEATHER DOB 10/31/2003 DOP 1/2/2004 www.mercurymarauder.net

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430561 09/11/02 03:13 AM
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,603 Westchester Co., NY, USA R RoadRunner_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RoadRunner_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,603 Westchester Co., NY, USA	Originally posted by contour_phoenix_when: Avoid Incomplete ATX fluid changes Changing the oil on an ATX involves dropping the ATX oil pan and replacing the mesh filter. Unfortunately this only changes 3.8L of oil with 5L of dirty oil and abrasive particles still remaining in the torque-convertor & gearbox. To change all 8.8L of oil requires the following procedure: two large 20L buckets, one with 10L of oil, the other empty; hoses to the ATX oil cooler are removed and extended into the empty bucket; the engine is started for 1 second and the hose ejecting oil is left in the empty bucket whilst the now identified oil-intake hose is moved to the bucket containing fresh oil; the engine is restarted and run until only clean oil exits. Two people are required and Dealers do not perform such a service as routine - it must requested. Complete oil changes will greatly extend the life of the ATX. Dealers don't perform this because it doesn't work. The Transmission pump will pump fluid TO the cooler and the return line from the cooler only dumps the return fluid onto the internal Drive Chain. There is no pump connection on the return line to siphon the new fluid into the transmission. It has to be POURED through the dipstick tube. Pete... 2004 Mercury Marauder 300A Black Clearcoat/Dark Charcoal LEATHER DOB 10/31/2003 DOP 1/2/2004 www.mercurymarauder.net

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430562 09/11/02 07:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5 conn. H Hondakiller_dup1 Newbie
Hondakiller_dup1 Newbie H Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 5 conn.	Originally posted by 96mystiquezetec: Maybe you just need to learn how to drive stick better . I have 73,xxx miles on my car and NO problems thusfar. I am impressed with my zetec engine and mtx-75 reliability. [/quoteYOUR EASY TO IMPRESS THEN.PLUS HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW I DRIVE?

Re: The transmissions on these cars suck!!! #430563 09/12/02 12:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,163 brooklyn,ny,usa C contour_phoenix_when_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
contour_phoenix_when_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er C Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,163 brooklyn,ny,usa	Okay RoadRunner has CEG recommended owners add an oil cooler to their ATX and if so where can one get such a kit and what is the cost and labor to install it?

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