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#429003 09/06/02 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by D Davis:
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These are not peopel going there to leave flowers and stuff....these are people wearing shorts/tshirts/sneakers and snapping pictures at everything they can like it's disney land. NYC maps in hand. Obviously tourists.

That is sad, then


Why? It is going to go down as one of the most important events in our nations history. I would certainly go to the scene if I was in NYC much like I would go to Pearl Harbor if I were in Hawaii and the site of the disaster if I were in OKC. And in each case, I would certainly have a camera in hand. It's not disrespectful to want to see or be at the site of an event that had such an impact on our country.


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Did you read what I said when I first asked the question?? I've already qualified the same argument as yourself.


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Very Long, but definitely worth reading!!

"DO NOT FORGET"

I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List," asked myself, "Why didn't the Jews fight back?"

Now I know why.

I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself, "Why weren't we prepared?"

Now I know why.

Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil people.

On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed themselves to be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists because they did not comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated their captors.

On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too many Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to the dominance of others. Many political pundits, pacifists and media personnel want us to forget the carnage. They say we must focus on the bravery of the rescuers and ignore the cowardice of the killers. They implore us to understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying devastating footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers.

I will not be manipulated.

I will not pretend to understand.

I will not forget.

I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to kick our country when it was vulnerable and hurting.

I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's address to the nation with the snide remark, "No matter how you feel about him, he is still our president."

I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned President Bush's motives for not returning immediately to Washington, DC and commented, "We're all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington."

And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halperin warned if reporters weren't informed of every little detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor should they be expected -- to show deference."

I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an attack on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United States of America.

I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic terrorists and their supporters with the world's most sophisticated telecommunications equipment and encryption technology, thereby compromising America's ability to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes and modem communications.

I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like those perfected by the previous administration.

I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like the silly "Have your bags been under your control?" question at the airport.

I will not be influenced by so called,"antiwar demonstrators" who exploit the right of expression to chant anti-American obscenities.

I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by American war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines.

I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose reassurance over reality.

I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told Labor Party conference, "They have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of the innocent. If they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000, does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in it?

There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of minds, no point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice: defeat it or be defeated by it. And defeat it we must!"

I will force myself to:


-hear the weeping
-feel the helplessness
-imagine the terror
-sense the panic
-smell the burning flesh
- experience the loss
- remember the hatred.

I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself, "Where did they find the courage?"

Now I know.

We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living.

-- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.)
Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine.

Keep this going until every living American has read it and memorized it so we don't make the same mistake again.


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Wow! A fine read. Where'd you find it?

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I'll have my headlights on and pass the word...


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Originally posted by dnewma04:
Originally posted by D Davis:
Originally posted by TheGreatOne:
These are not peopel going there to leave flowers and stuff....these are people wearing shorts/tshirts/sneakers and snapping pictures at everything they can like it's disney land. NYC maps in hand. Obviously tourists.

That is sad, then


Why? It is going to go down as one of the most important events in our nations history. I would certainly go to the scene if I was in NYC much like I would go to Pearl Harbor if I were in Hawaii and the site of the disaster if I were in OKC. And in each case, I would certainly have a camera in hand. It's not disrespectful to want to see or be at the site of an event that had such an impact on our country.


Exactly, couldn't agree with you more!

Me and my g/f were in NYC a few months before the attacks, and because she'd never been to the city before, we made a weekend of it and saw the sites. We even went to the WTC - But by the time we got there, she was tired and we didn't make it past the lobby before she decided she didn't want to go up. We ended up getting a snack at the Krispy Kreme there, and then went back to the hotel.

I myself had never been to the top of the WTC, so I was sort of irked about the whole thing. But it was a long day, and the weather was pretty cold, so I let it go. When 9/11 happened, I was stunned. She felt REALLY bad about the fact that because of her selfishness that day, we'll never have a chance to do that now.

I would like to go back and see how it's all changed, it is a part of history after all. And I probably would take pictures, something to show to my kids down the road when they're learning about this.

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Originally posted by 98 SE:
Wow! A fine read. Where'd you find it?


Someone my stepmom knows sent it to her.


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I remeber when I first heard the news. I was at marching band practice, At first I thought it was a small plane and maybe a few casualties. Then walking through the halls of the school I heard classmates talking about it. When I got to ag the first thing I did was turn on a computer and hop over to a news site, and this site were I saw people falling/jumping from the towers, big gaping holes in the side and the pentagon on fire . i'll never forget those sights. I spent most the day in the Library watching the news. Thanks to some slack classes. But most the classes disscussed what was goin on anyway


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Amanda that is amazing. Thanks for sharing. It is exactly how I feel. September 11, 2001 was the day the war came to America, and we should NEVER forget that.


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