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No, it's turning into a slanging match here. Thats not what the forums are intended for, duh ....
I fail to see how merely stating the facts about what happened to this customer is mud slinging. Maybe we shoudl all keep quiet and let it happen again? What if you're next?? There are *some* over the top posts, but, they are made by both sides. No mudslinging here...just airing out the dirty laundry. :rolleyes:


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No, it's turning into a slanging match here. Thats not what the forums are intended for, duh ....
I fail to see how merely stating the facts about what happened to this customer is mud slinging. Maybe we shoudl all keep quiet and let it happen again? What if you're next?? There are *some* over the top posts, but, they are made by both sides. No mudslinging here...just airing out the dirty laundry. :rolleyes:
This needed to come to the light, and terry made it worse by bringing up the dmd. That shows the real side of terry, which makes are decsion of having him work on our cars that much easier to make. No company can build there buisness with crapy service and dising customers about things they didnt know. I wouldnt like to be treated that way, having this in the forums is knowledge everyone should have. So that said. Thank God for forums

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Customer chose to come to Mi ,I didn't force him...and no I wont get out of bed to greet you...if you dont get 24hr service from a Ford dealer why should you expect it from me...I'll call you up at home late at night when my software crashes eh..I dont think so!!!!!!
How come you can only answer that?
I posted alot more info/questions for you to respond to.
Like VR4 guy said no one was expecting you to pull a tranny at 12 midnight but you just did work on this guys car for the 3rd straight time and for the same problem BROKEN HOSES
and leaks elsewhere, So a simple come out and say customer i'm sorry your stuck i'll get on it tomorrow, But instead was it I have other customers that are in front of you and you'll have to wait? correct?

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Why is the MTX a "ticking time bomb" as someone put it? With a good diff in it, Shouldn't it be strong enough to put up with a fair amount of abuse?? What are people breaking in the the tranny? All I ever broke was the diff. I put in a Quaife and problem solved. My trans has been fine. Just wondering. I thought the MTX was a pretty good tranny.

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okay i dont know what went on with stolen dmd's and blown hoses etc... but in my opinion looking at that frankenstein mtx 'u pays yer money and u takes yer chances'....i wouldn't buy such a weird and questionable looking item for my car especially if it has to be driven on the streets...just because terry says something like no mod is guaranteed or whatever the quote was doesn't mean he has to or should back away from installing it...someone will install twins hamsters under your civic hood if u have the money...doesn't make them responsible for the outcome necessarily...stick with basics like upgraded internals and a cooler...and while we buy all these new parts for the 'tour we should remember that we and our cars are the guinea pigs

having said all that i will also say that i;d be pissed if i spent a grip on some major work and it went bad on me...but if u buy a part that has maybe been installed and worked on one car then u may be getting your hopes up that something wont go wrong...i dont know the particulars on service time of lack there of to make the car right again so i wont comment on that aspect

my brother runs his own business as a computer consultant and installing computer systems for businesses and derek fisher of the lakers as well having setup music studios for others....he does okay at it; it helped keep him afloat while out of work for nearly a yr or so.....he would certainly not blow a customer off just because it was middle of the nite...if u have a good customer that spends good money giving u business there should maybe be some special consideration....he got used to heading in to work at all hrs of the nite while working at oxidental petroleum yrs ago when he'd have to go and send telex's around the world and was on call 24/7 sometimes...he continues that in his own business today and currently is supervising info sys at usc working graveyard so now he's having to help these folks during the day and getting little sleep overall...as much as anything its curtesy and networking

its interesting to see so many on terry's ass now when some of the same were tongue deep over the months i've been on this site...im just wondering if some of this is pent up hostility that is coming out now....not knowing his work ethic and so on i will say that i've often felt that terry treats many on this site no better than the treatment they would receive going to a ford dealer...same attitude quite often

i think both sides have issues....terry definitely does not have the best bedside manner and im sure u've noticed that before this incident but if this guy cant come and defend himself like a man u all should quit wasting space byatching for him....if he doesn't want to talk and terry or whoever keeps saying negative things about him then terry looks like a fool...to me u all make this person look like a puss by fighting his battle for him

i know no one will say (since no one's talking about what happened :rolleyes: ) but i would like to know at least the story behind the dmd being a stolen part...how so???

i woulda kept my 2 cents to myself but after seeing this post everyday get longer and longer i just had to come in to see what the discussion was about and after reading a bunch i stuck my opinion in

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Why is the MTX a "ticking time bomb" as someone put it? With a good diff in it, Shouldn't it be strong enough to put up with a fair amount of abuse?? What are people breaking in the the tranny? All I ever broke was the diff. I put in a Quaife and problem solved. My trans has been fine. Just wondering. I thought the MTX was a pretty good tranny.

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Just like most manual gearboxes, the MTX-75 has it's quirks. This thread is mostly aimed toward a hose breaking on an aftermarket modification that adds a pressurized lubircation system to many key points of the gearbox.

The quaife is good for most everyone, but this adds extra protection by constantly lubricating the sychros and other areas that can be prone to fatigue.

On the mtx75 being a 'pretty good tranny'. I'd have to say it's a damn good tranny, but it sees lots of abuse (not attacking anyone) by enthusiasts like ourselves.

I doubt any elderly contour owners have broken their diffs.

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terry treats many on this site no better than the treatment they would receive going to a ford dealer
ditto. some of my personal thoughts have been reinforced.

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call you up at home late at night when my software crashes
i've used hp's 24 hr service, as well as my southwestern bell's dsl 24 hr service many times.

I'm guessing that "the customer" doesn't want to air any of this because the issue has not yet been resolved? If he were to attack Terry or defend himself, it could make his resolving of his tranny problem worse?

I hope that more info gets released when all is said and done. Whenever someone has a bad dealing with SPMotorsports, local Ford dealer, etc., they post their disgust with the service, kind of like a heads up. Ultimately, it's up to the rest of us to make our own judgements.


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i think both sides have issues....terry definitely does not have the best bedside manner and im sure u've noticed that before this incident but if this guy cant come and defend himself like a man u all should quit wasting space byatching for him....if he doesn't want to talk and terry or whoever keeps saying negative things about him then terry looks like a fool...to me u all make this person look like a puss by fighting his battle for him
I did not throw anyones name out i simply ask about the hoses holding up to pressure, and what happened terry came out and started slamming the customer, Yeah i was instigating but I don't care for what terry did to this customer.

This customer didn't want me to say anything about it but after terry started with customer this and customer that with stolen parts Thats it i couldn't hold back so i let it all out for everyone to see and take it FWIW.

This customer trusted in terry because terry is the SO-CALLED creator of the contour and designer of a transmission that can hold up to any kind of abuse, or terry did you say that this is now a weekend car because of the work you did?

So before you come out and call someone a puss because i'm posting for him maybe you should check yourself because i'm a good friend of his that won't sit down and listen to some arrogant man talk crap about my friend. I'm sure you would do the same.

Yes i agree with you on the fact about both sides having there own issues, But here is a man that put himself on the pedestal for everyone to bring there pride and joy to for him to improve and not brake down.

Still waiting terry.


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Roger[/qb]
Just like most manual gearboxes, the MTX-75 has it's quirks. This thread is mostly aimed toward a hose breaking on an aftermarket modification that adds a pressurized lubircation system to many key points of the gearbox.

The quaife is good for most everyone, but this adds extra protection by constantly lubricating the sychros and other areas that can be prone to fatigue.

On the mtx75 being a 'pretty good tranny'. I'd have to say it's a damn good tranny, but it sees lots of abuse (not attacking anyone) by enthusiats like ourselves.

I doubt any elderly contour owners have broken their diffs.[/QB][/QUOTE]

I agree that it is a good tranny for a front drive car. I don't see why putting pressurized oil in the gearbox is going to help that much. By the time you start moving there is oil everywhere because the gears pick the oil up and soak the internal parts. If you lube the synchro to well it may not work properly. I am not saying this pressure thing is useless because I really don't know EXACTLY what it is doing. I was just wondering why you would pressurize any of the oil in the gearbox. If it was that important for wear wouldn't you see it more often in factory gearboxes? The closest I have seen to this is something like the gearbox oil cooler in some of the Porsche gearboxes. Not trying to bash anyone, just curious.

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terry come out of the closet we wont hurt you. Slim I think we scared him, or he realized he is making himself look worse each time he touches his keyboard. I think a MAJOR appoligie is needed from terry to customer.

Micah

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