Yes,I would believe that a problem exist in the wiring harness and I probably should have mentioned that the ignition module was the first thing that was replaced and as well I did not know that "pat" stood for passive anti theft however I do recall reading about the anti theft system somewhere I just didn't know the acronym for it.Thanks for your help ,I will try to trace out the harness as soon as I can track down a decent schematic, the ones in the hanes manual are to vague.
