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WOW Tuffness~~~~ WATTSPXR I didn't know you were the car expert...i guess i should have came to you before i even wrote anything...maybe i'll know better next time! Take it easy i'm not trying to MIS-LEAD anyone...this is what i read and what THEY claim, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT! I'm getting these Headers for my own car for my OWN personal bennifit! I'm just trying to get them cheaper and let anyone else in that wants theses things cheaper as well. I'm not claiming these will give you 25HP it's what i read! I'm NO car expert, i have no idea what does what, i just love my car and i'm just trying to do some stuff to it! I'm not trying to mis-lead anyone trying to let them think they are buying a SUPER SET of Headers that will give them the HP of a Supercharger...THIS like i've said before is alllllllll in what MSDS says...you want to tell someone that they are being false in statements, then go to them! We've had people on here claim that when they put the headers are their cars they DID get good HP gains, if you think differently, fine! but i don't need you getting on my case about something i know nothing about! I gave everyone the WEB site and the SITE has MSDS Phone# on it so they can ask MSDS ANY questions they might have or they can ask MSDS about performance gains!...Like the old saying "Don't shoot the messanger!" So take it easy and please keep your negative comments TOWARDS ME to yourself! I'm all about input for these Headers and if yours happens to be negative then fine, but don't say it like i'm promising anything or i'm making and producing these HEADERS, this is ALL RELAYED information!~!
ANYWAY!!! I have 9 people as of right now and i still need EVERYONES Email, FULL NAME, CAR YEAR, MAKE and CAT. Convertor Bold # so please, if you want this deal let me know soon! THANKS
OH and there is no way to cut the price if you don't want the Y PIPE...sorry, that's just they way it comes!~!
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Sho Shop may be selling the Headers with out the Y so you can then buy their Y pipe. If you need a Y-pipe use the MSDS, I have heard better performance gains with the MSDS compared to the SHo Shop's. Also, I will try to get a pic of the stock exhaust manifold next tothe MSDS headers, I think I still have both laying out right now. I think this will demostrate that gutting your pre-cats is just a poor man's waste of time. It is cheap and it may help slightly, but if your gonna break the law, do it right 
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are you able to get that pic up? I would like to see the difference, side by side! Let us know if you can...Thanks for the help! 
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Are the gains with the set of headers really worth the extra money when compared a combination of gutted precats and the sho shop y pipe w/ high flow cat?
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I will have it up tomorrow night, forgot to take my camera to work today 
BTW, Anyone see the price of a replacement exhaust manifolds?
1999 | Ford | Contour
Description List Price Your Price Action
Exhaust System, Exhaust Manifold, 2.5L, Right $917.80 $798.49
Exhaust System, Exhaust Manifold, 2.5L, Left $701.69 $610.47
Now, say you gut your precats and fail inspection, now what you gonna buy to fix it?
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Nice call KnuK, i've also head that gutting them doesn't do toooooo much!~! Anywho! Anyone else want in???? EMAIL me or send a private message, i'm going to call the guy tomorrow and let him know we are almost ready and get the FINAL ordering details! THANKS GUYS!
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2003 Yellow Honda CBR 600 RR
2004 Green/wht. Yamaha 740XL Waverunner
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and i JUST had mine replaced...less that 500 miles on them.... Under the 8yr/80k emissions warranty Originally posted by KnuKonceptz:
I will have it up tomorrow night, forgot to take my camera to work today
BTW, Anyone see the price of a replacement exhaust manifolds?
1999 | Ford | Contour
Description List Price Your Price Action
Exhaust System, Exhaust Manifold, 2.5L, Right $917.80 $798.49
Exhaust System, Exhaust Manifold, 2.5L, Left $701.69 $610.47
Now, say you gut your precats and fail inspection, now what you gonna buy to fix it?
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Originally posted by SVTnKC:
WOW Tuffness~~~~ WATTSPXR
If you only KNEW!!! 
Now on to more important matters: Since you want to get sarcastic with me, though my comment was only providing you and others simply with more accurate numbers, 'I'll give you the Nitty Gritty!!!' 
It was made clear to you by Dan Nixon that those numbers are far fetched, so your response to that, "you can assume you will get at least 10-25hp!" Comeon BRO, that is the most unrealistic/fargetched claim I have come across in a while. I mean I've heard 10-15 or 20-25 but never have I heard 10-25, boy this MSDS unit must be one inconsistently built product to make such an approximation. Now instead of playing guessing games (it's clear you took the site/persons word like a child takes to it's mother, but's obvious you didn't know better) or getting bent out of shape you should have just took it as information. I'm not knocking the product nor you or your intentions, I was simply correcting your comment, making you aware of it. It's great that you want to start a GB on this, just letting you know try to do more research or if and when you're corrected try taking it like a GRAIN of SALT, and by all means don't assume/guess!! Trust me on the Grain of Salt, I use to take peoples comments very personal when I first entered these boards to the point that some got so out of hand with PM's I was ready to fly to the US Mainland and pay them a visit! A few here help me realize that this is the internet and you just need to let these things go so take it from me I know what I'm talking about, Stay cool and don't take things so personal....
Aloha O'e
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Guess what everyone? They are headers!!! Not worth getting panties wadded up about!! They will improve horsepower over stock exhaust manifolds. Geez...if everyone here needs to argue so badly, get married!!  Now, having said that, I suppose I'll be flamed to death.
JasonS
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Go: SHOshop Intake & y-pipe, Brullen exhaust,
Eibach springs, EBC TurboGroove rotors,
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Originally posted by JasonS:
Geez...if everyone here needs to argue so badly, get married!!
That is funny. It is "qoute worthy"..
1999 Amazon Green SVT Contour (#554/2760)
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