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#406948 05/19/02 12:59 AM
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Well there was an Eaton S/C'd Cougar at SZ but the SVT guys who brought it out said they couldn't get it to idle shocked Its said to be putting out 350 hp, man someone should jump on that because there wouldn't be a reliability issue like there is with the Vortech kit wink or the turbo because although I'm sure the turbo kit is being carefully put together but theres not enough R&D on it yet to have "peice of mind" wink Not trying to flame all of those working on the turbo kit, just an observation.


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#406949 05/19/02 01:13 AM
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Roger, What types of reliability issues would you think would be a concern with the turbo? confused

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Roger, What types of reliability issues would you think would be a concern with the turbo? confused
Well I'm just saying that noone "really" has put one on the car, tested it in "real world" conditions and then went back and made adjustments, that all wink Its not that the people who are working on this aren't qualified, its just I wouldn't want to be the guinny pig unless......


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#406951 05/19/02 05:57 AM
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Roger I really dont understand what your talking about. I certainly didnt say anything about streetflight not being capable of building the system. I thought you may have some servicing or reliability concerns. Turbo's are very reliable nowadays. There are a few things you need to do maintenance wise but it really is no big deal. I bet you already do what you need to do maintenance wise to take care of the turbo. There is alot of pure BS out there about turbo's and there so called quirks. Most of it came to be from the old days of turbocharging. The industry has come along way since those days, but old legends die hard. smile

#406952 05/19/02 01:16 PM
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Everyone here is smoking crack laugh

Umm ... you are criticising a turbo kit that is currently being design/developed and tested and has no release date yet and comparing it to what ... some half-assed wild idea as to what would be better? The only thing you have to compare it to is a Vortec, which happens to have a 100% failure rate on the Contour. Hell, all you have to do is get ANYTHING up and running boost that doesn't destroy your engine and it will be a sucess compared to the Vortec alternative.

As far a boost device type, please explain to me exactly how a roots style blower would be better than a turbo? A turbo is much more flexable as far as boost is concerned, not to mention efficientcy!


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#406953 05/19/02 07:31 PM
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Umm ... you are criticising a turbo kit that is currently being design/developed and tested and has no release date yet and comparing it to what ... some half-assed wild idea as to what would be better? The only thing you have to compare it to is a Vortec, which happens to have a 100% failure rate on the Contour. Hell, all you have to do is get ANYTHING up and running boost that doesn't destroy your engine and it will be a sucess compared to the Vortec alternative.

As far a boost device type, please explain to me exactly how a roots style blower would be better than a turbo? A turbo is much more flexable as far as boost is concerned, not to mention efficientcy!
Your last coment is incorect, If you go by the old tech of the roots blower there is some merit to what you say. However the roots blower people havent been standing still either! There have been alot of advances in root blower tech that has raised the efficientcy of the roots blower well above what it used to be. Flexabilaty? How do you mean? confused

#406954 05/19/02 07:42 PM
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B]undefined[/B] The only thing you have to compare it to is a Vortec, which happens to have a 100% failure rate on the Contour.

FastCougar, You are the one smoking Crack! How can you say the Vortech has a 100% failure rate. You have no idea what you are talking about! I have a Vortech, been running it hard for months, and it has never failed. Because some of the people here have had failures, that doesnot equal 100% [


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Roger 'et al'....As soon as you start 'major' mods you take your car out of the 'daily driver with 'bolt ons' class.To expect to open the hood once a month is a dream,unless you want to pay every time I'd suggest that anyone contemplating major mods of this type becomes a 'gearhead' real quick.The cars are easy to mod...its the owners 'attitude' that is the major problem.... wink


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#406956 05/19/02 09:19 PM
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FastCougar, You are the one smoking Crack! How can you say the Vortech has a 100% failure rate. You have no idea what you are talking about! I have a Vortech, been running it hard for months, and it has never failed. Because some of the people here have had failures, that doesnot equal 100%
If you get out of your 12 month warranty, you will be the first person that I know about that has accomplished that. Not smoking crack, just recounting the collective experience with the Vortech around here. Heck, some people are on their 3rd blower from Vortech! Wish you all the luck in the world, but don't be surprised when your blower starts spewing oil.


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#406957 05/19/02 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by PA 3L SVT If you get out of your 12 month warranty, you will be the first person that I know about that has accomplished that.

I maintain that you know a very small amount of the people with these SCs. I also am aware there was some original problems with metallurgy. But, as I have the improved shaft and a properly installed oil return line, I think my chances are quite good. The GM of Vortech Engineering is running the same SC, on the same car, and goes to track days frequently. He is doing fine with his.


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