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Chris, I have been watching the boards for a long time and taking part in them as well! I have seen the post's concerning the supposed oiling problem. NOBODY has proved there is a oil problem with the engine. Some have even said that all the oil is pumped up into the heads and does'nt drain back into the sump.BULL! Terry even did a experiment with a head and found the oil drained right out. I know the heads on my Duratech are not full of oil when the engine is runing leaving me with a 1/2 pint of oil in the sump. Thats rediculous! If someone has that problem the drain holes in the head are almost completely stopped up and have far more important problems than deciding on wether or not to turbo there car. An example would be to learn how to properly maintain there engine to prevent the drain hole blockage in the first place.

Cartman your buddy is correct Garret does not make a T28 and most people in the turbo comunity know that the T25 is refered to as T[Too small]25 because it does not supply enough airflow for a 2L. engine! I too would like to know how boost control is being dealt with. I'm not saying it cant be done its just that this is VERY important and I've seen NO mention of it. I'm trying to get a fluid conversation going about this kit by addressing some of the things that were stated to be exclusive to the Duratech[which realy arent] and going from there, but I'm not having alot of luck. I wonder why?

Cartman,

This "T28" we are using is a custom built from Forced Performance . It uses Garrett components. I would like to turn peoples' attention to what kind of company Forced Performance is. They build/modify/machine turbos for specific applications. This particular turbo they are building is specifically for the Duratec. I, personally, sent them the info for the Duratec which included displacement, RPM, VE, etc. They have a proven track record that they know what they are doing when it comes to turbos. If you have any other questions as to who exactly Forced Performance is, check out the web, or their site I linked above.

I would also like to point out, the components are not up for discussion. We have the professional expertise to accomplish this. I don't see what second-guessing is going to prove.

Chris, I'm more than familiar with Forced Performance. Thank you for clearing that up. The T28 is exactally what Cartman said it was and I thank you for acknowledging that. I have about 15 years experiance with forced induction so I'm not new to the subject and am very familiar with most if not all vendors in that area. I'm not trying to get into a p***ing match with you or trying to upset you, But YOU are the one trying to sell a turbo kit and as such you should be ready,willing and able to answer questions about your kit. What do you mean that discussion of the components is not allowed? You are selling a kit and no one is to know what components your using until they fork over the money and recieve a myterious brown box? I really dont beleive thats what you meant,but thats the way it came across. As for the coment you directed right at me. You are the one that got on the board and posted a list of things that you stated were exclusive to the Duratech engine and implied that they were not concerns for the Honda,Nissan and DSM engines. Again I'm not trying to start anything with you and did not mean to offend you. I just wanted to clarify a subject that you brought up.

Just to put it briefly, the point I was trying to make, is in the thread that got locked. People have a concern about a company that has never messed with a Duratec putting a turbo on one. On the other side, we have people with plenty of experience with the Duratec putting a turbo on one. It would be foolish to assume the Duratec is just like any other engine.

As you might know, having 15 years of experience with forced induction, engines are different. They react differently to forced induction. The Duratec is a "different" engine with features that make it unique. As for the oil problems with the Duratec, here is some proof. As for the components and specs, we will be making the decisions. If this was a turbo kit made by the CEG I would understand the need to in depth discussion. The only selling tools I need are the kit designers, dyno graphs, and actual satisfied customers. There are some things that WILL be left unknown to the consumer. Just call them "trade secrets".

you should include a mirko pan and a accusump in each v6 kit!

I'm very familiar with that thread and no where in it did anyone prove that there is any kind of design problem with the oiling system on the Duratech. Nor in any other thread on the the subject, only rumors,speculation and theories. Yes engines are different # of cylinders, # of camshafts # of valves, Types of combustion chambers, materials of construction etc. But they are all the same, they are all internal combustion engines and the same rules[physics] apply. ALL engines respond the same with forced induction[MORE POWER]however there may be different consaqeunces[spelling]but thats a different subject. Chris I'm sorry if somehow you got the impression that I wanted to have input as to what components you use, I certainly didnt mean to convey that. I just wondered what you were using. Trade secrets! There are no trade secrets to turbocharging. Turbocharging of engines have been going on for over a half a century. Listing the components you use in no way giving anything secret away, Its just good buisness. Let people know that they are getting a qaulity kit by telling them who's components you are using. I'm not trying to rain on your parade! I wish you all the luck in the world, but anyone ready to plop down 3 to 5 grand for a product should at least know beforehand what there geting for there money.

This post has gone far a field from my original purpose: to appologize to a legitamate business for the craziness that sometimes occurs between members of this board. If anyone on this post would actually like to discuss CONTOURDREAMZ's turbo kit I would highly encourage them to do so. Otherwise, Mr. Hightower (no disrespect, since I'll probably wind up buying a THM/Street Flight turbo) your turbo kit(s) already have plenty of threads.

So Cartman you are saying that ONLY a new turbo from a turbo manufacturer is good, reliable, the best option available...

...or what were you trying to say???

Because if said statement is true you couldn't be further from the truth.

Hybrid turbos have been around for ages. I've run many of them we great results...

You pick on the T28's high boost heat build up quirk, high boost efficiency rating and lag (slow spool up) that a high boost setting will cause it. When in fact the turbo kit is going to be running around 10psi (not high by any means) & be intercooled as well...

BTW - the T28 is ~76% efficient (cool air) at 14psi. No it's not a outstanding high boost turbo, but then again this kit/engine doesn't require one...

I wasn't saying anything, if you read my message, I was quoting a friend of mine who was giving his feedback when I gave him the details of our turbo kit. Before I drop this kind of money, I want to make sure everything's going to be ok. He's sort of a turbo expert, so he had some useful feedback, which I'm relaying to the list, in hopes of getting some straight answers.. So far, nothing good has come of it.