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Dear Sir(assuming you're a man here)

I would like to apologize on behalf of the CEGers who have an ounce of sense, I am sorry your thread got closed. Yes, there are some in our ranks who quibble and bicker bitterly, and to no end. PLEASE don't let this scare you off from trying to devolope anything for our beloved contours. Our cars are starved for an aftermarket and I'm sure that if you produce a well thought out product THAT YOU WILL BACK UP, you will have no problem selling it to the Owners on this site who are serious about tuning their cars, just don't worry about the bench racers and Trolls who regularly try to stir up trouble(and those who are too easily baited into arguing w/ them.)

Well said OhSigmaChi

Thanks, just thought it needed sayin'

He/they should be posting again soon. I called the shop yesterday and talked to them directly. They seemed pretty respectable.

I have tell you guys, a few CEGers went out to the shop in LI a little while ago. The ownder did not seem to excited to work on our cars and he felt that the money would be better spent on a Neon instead. A figure of 10k was thrown around as well. The shop didn't look that good either. I for one will not go out there again.

Ask Slim Shady for more information. Not to bad mouth, but this is the truth.

Understood Chris. At the time it was not considered a worthwhile venture. Now they have started looking at a different market and they think we would be interested b/c of the performance offered by stock duratecs (SVT's, SE's, Mystiques and Cougars) w/ apparent, he!!, obvious lack of aftermarket support. Yes, that's what they thought at the time but talking to the guys in NJ who do installs for Blue Ribbon they sounded seriously interested in constructing a turbo kit for these engines. I believe they lack one deposit for the Cougar guys and they know of the similarities between Cougars and Contours however they would like to see the SVT's after the Cougar kit is done to see what fitment issues, if any, exist. I have already offered my car as a prototype simply to try to get more aftermarket parts out for our cars.
I will not flame anyone or try to force my opinion on them, but I will ask to stay open minded on this. Rarely have people stepped up to the plate to offer parts for our cars like this (obvious thanks to CTA motorsports, Chris Hightower, Terry Haines, Brad Noon, etc. I am in no way trying to degrade the value of their work {those building turbos now} or steal from their market). I feel it is worth my time to try to help them. I realize this is a touchy subject right now w/ two VERY well known, loved and respected CEGers working on this very project now, but not everyone is going to like their kits. I'm just trying to further the cause. If I get the BRT kit and sit next to a Hightower or Haines kit and dyno less, lose on the strip and street I won't feel bad b/c I'm trying to do the same as those guys, make all Contours/Mystiques/Cougars infinitely more bada$$ than they are now.
What the guys at BRT were talking about on LI is the tooling and prototyping costs to build a turbo kit for the car. All ContourDreamz is asking is for 5 guys to put down a deposit of $500 (fully refundable if they don't make the kit) and they will front the rest of the tooling costs themselves. All that does for them is verify the interest of a turbo kit for the Contiquegars. I hope this clears up a couple of things anyway.
W/ that said, I was wondering if there was at least four other guys on the East Coast interested in this kit to go in w/ me. I say East Coast b/c this puts us in their back yard in case there is something we don't like (quality of kit, sales, performance, etc) so we can deal w/ them directly.
It's a new project, it's going to take some faith. It's not for everyone. But I'm interested.

chknhwk,

I think there is a big concern to Duratec owners regarding the turbo kit. We all know the Duratec has its quirks and special ways it needs to be handled. The main argument on the other threads was basically this:

"Why choose to have someone that has NEVER messed with a Duratec to make a turbo kit??"

If there is a philosophy that "a turbo is a turbo, they're all the same" then something is seriously wrong. If Blue Ribbon's turbo kit for the V6 comes to pass, I would implore them to take some time learning about this engine. If they think they can take their knowledge of putting turbos on Hondas, Nissans, DSM, etc. and apply that same knowledge to the Duratec, they will be in for a big suprise.

I can assure you our kit is being made with or without a handful of Cougar/Contour owners. I'm not worried about that. My genuine concern is for the people that are going into this blindly.

I agree competition is good as we live in a capitalist economy, but at the cost of the consumer, no.

If the main reason for not going with the SF/HMS turbo kit is money, I can assure you, you get what you pay for with either kit.

(BTW, Blue Ribbon is listed as a "marine supply" company)

-Chris

Yes, big market for large motored boats. I know, I came off of submarines! I know, different engines.
Anyway, I realize there will be issues w/ any new kit for any company. I have faith in their ability to tune. The biggest problem I'm going to have is people trying to flame me for putting down yours and Terry's stuff when I'm not, subsequently losing out on the opportunity for more Contour kits.
Hey, if they make them and they blow (no pun intended), then everyone will know not to go to them. I just want to see more stuff out there. And I don't feel that this is some rinky dink outfit trying to blow some over on me. They did not once try to make me disbelieve what I already know and seemed very genuine in making this kit. Look at it their way (I know you are b/c you're doing it!) here's a whole bunch of people who want power adders. Hmm, I make a good one and I make mucho dinero. To quote another CEG'er: You can pillage only once, but a customer is an endless resource. I think this company feels this way.
If you can think of anything else that seems fishy w/ their business, please let me know and I will try to ferret it out. I live right next door!

Chris rather than make such blanket statements about the so called quirks of the Duratech engine, please take the time to enlighten us on those special quirks. What are they? You listed several engines in your posting. I'm currious what special rules apply to the Duratech that do not apply to those engines as well? I'm always willing to learn something new, so please help me out here.

Oil, oil, oil... Intake manifold, secondaries, ignition, EEC-V, MAF (not too special there), domestic, V6, waterpump, etc.

There are a few things that would warrant special attention. Most cars have these types of "quirks". Knowing how to work with them is important when you are adding massive amounts of power.