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it can be done but only if u have a custom built engine, out of cast iron.

plus 100 shot with turbo, thats a no no.

there is a very slight chance that the duratec live long enought, if u use a 100 shot it self.

im not guru on car engines or anything, be even this 17 yr old know that it is impossible (or improbable) to do such a thing.


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Yes I know that 100 shot would be to much especially since it would be a violent reaction. Maybe 25-50 shot would help cool the engine with boost and produce just enough edge to get us into the edge 12 sec car.

Has anyone actually first hand know what our rods and piston can handle, probably not so maybe I have a spare block waiting when I try it or 3.0 with stronger parts and lower compression . Soon or later someone will know. Oh definitely after my turbo one year warranty over.

So I was just speculating what to do later on either crank up the turbo or add juice.

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what are you talkin about? its not impossible to run 100 shot and a turbo......that kinda stuff has been happenin for quite some time now


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Do you have an Intercooler fitted? If not fit one, if you have fit a bigger one! Or a more efficient one. When you crank the boost up, you will prob need water injection, to prevent it blowing up.

Another thing would be to lower the comp if not allready.

How you would do this on a V6 I don't know cos there are next to no tuning items for the duratec in the UK!


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what are you talkin about? its not impossible to run 100 shot and a turbo......that kinda stuff has been happenin for quite some time now


are u talking about the contour, duratec engine, because we are, no doubt about other car doing so but the contour, i dont know of one, that is running a turbo and 100 shot nos, for 1 the turbo just got release, i dont think anyone except for chris to have it.


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Yes I know that 100 shot would be to much especially since it would be a violent reaction. Maybe 25-50 shot would help cool the engine with boost and produce just enough edge to get us into the edge 12 sec car.


No, If you have a turbo engine with stock internals you will produce say 300 HP. Just becuase you put say a 50 shot on there DOES NOT mean 350 HP 1)your cooling the intake air so you gain there 2)your adding nitros so you gain there.

Can it be done hell yeah, there are plenty of cars that run SC/TC with NOS but and this is an important But the engine is HAND BUILT from the ground up using very good parts. Also alot of trial and error to get the right combination and several blown up engines.

If you don't care about your car I say go for it. But I would suggest you chosse one or the other.


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lmao, sounds like we got some bench racers!

the simple fact is, that no matter how you achieve the hp, a stock duratech bottom end will not support high hp #'s.

IIRC, Terry Haines has done some testing that resulted in rods letting go in the 280hp range (please correct me if I'm wrong terry) though there are some folks on the street running a bit higher than that (Worldtour and others) that have yet to fail a rod. Any decently designed forced induction setup for a Duratech will result in power levels right around this hp #, adding a large (comparatively) shot of nitrous (NOS is a company) to this is like saying "yes, I would like to pick up the pieces of my engine after they have been scattered to the wind."

The fact of the matter is that the duratec as shipped by Ford, is not designed to handle large amounts of horsepower, and if one wants to achieve large amounts of hp with a duratec, the engine must be beefed up to handle those numbers. Connecting rods are a definate, as should pistons be, possibly some additional main bearing support, and a new crank. How much of each really depends on how much power you are shooting for.
and fwiw, the same applies to the rest of the driveline, the trans, and the halfshafts, etc.


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all three would be fun whoever mentioned it. Not very cost effecient though. Me and my uncle used to drag race a tri-blown(yes 3 blowers) 5.0L Mustang and we would have to rebuild the engine about every other race and that engine was built extremely well too. We would win most of the time too, but at a very high cost. My uncle finally got over his mad scientist phase and built up a single blown GTO that was putting out around 600-700HP last time I checked and it was much more reliable.


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umm, why 3 blowers? and what kind were they? and how much boost? and how much power? what block was he running?


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