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I would be very interested in seeing some dyno plots.
Also, if this is a kit, what sort of price are you charging for it?

if someone can post it i will scan the dyno sheet and send it to them

the price for my kit is 5200.00
that comes with everything listed above

sorry mark


tom

For your price, what is included in this "kit"? How many miles have been put on your can since it has been Turbo'd? Yes I know you said it has been there for 7months.....but...

Tom, if you send it to me, I wil post it:

fst4door@hotmail.com

as long as it is under 1MB (stupid hotmail)

Here's one of Tom's older dyno's I think...

Which turbo are you using? what sort of boost level? and what size is your intercooler?
You don't mention fuel delivery to your 42lb injectors, how do ensure sufficient fuel reaches the injectors? What sort of fuel pressure are you running at?
Have you done any controlled durability testing? can you guarantee it won't cause failures in otherwise stock engines?

1sick_puppy there is a list above in this thread that gives you what i have in the kit

i have put about 5ooo miles on it with the turbo
and i run the crap out of it every where i go
ask FST4DR how hard i ran it just in one day

Rara
it is a turbonetics turbo with 18psi boost the intercooler is 21x8x3 it will handle 1000hp
fuel delivery is all stock except i have a small in line pump in it and the 42lbs injectors and a return system that is only a pressure regulator and a 1/4 rubber line to the tank

controlled durability testing,not sure what you want here
i drive it every day,it has been on the dyno flogged for 44 runs,i run the pure "D" crap out of it every where i go,and its the only focus that i know of doing this type of power and still alive off the dyno,with a all stock engine

guarantee,my engine is all stock,to be safe i am doing the kit for 220 to 240 at the wheel hp to get more than that you will need to do the in line pump and the return system at a cost of about 250 to 300.00 and it will do 300 at the wheel
the only guarantee i will do is it is the same stuff as on my car and it will do 300 at the wheels,as for the engines holding up ,who knows mine is
are any of the other turbo kits out there guaranteeing your engine wont blow up on your car or any other type of car out there for that matter
i think not

my phone number is at the bottom of the dyno sheet if any one would like to talk to me

thanks
tom

Forgive me but one question.A stoc Zetec in a Focus is 9.6:1 CR, running 18 PSI boost nets you a 'Final CR' of around 21 to 22 : 1, how in gods name do you control the det at that CR with a stoc processor...large spark retard, extreme overich fueling...I ask because I cant help but doubt that level of boost on a stoc Zetec...dont be offended and BTW I left the 'I' out of my first post 'I dont buy it!'...sorry...

Tom,

Please don't take this post the wrong way, but I think you have a good bit more work to do before offering a kit like this for sale.

It sounds like you have a great custom setup on your Focus that is working really well for you. But that is an awful lot of power increase for an otherwise stock engine. I am really glad to hear you have not had problems on your engine, but the odds are, that if you offer this kit like it is, you will have a large percentage of them with serious problems, and they will be seriously pissed at you. This sort of thing happens all the time, look at the Vortech supercharger kit for the contour, from those here on the board, IIRC they have had a greater than 60% failure rate, mostly on the blower drive system.
As to what I was referring to about "controlled durability testing" what I was getting at, is that what you do with your car, and how you drive, and where you drive, is not necessarily representative of what other people may do when they have your kit. A properly engineered product will be tested under controlled conditions, and determined where the weak points of the system are, and where it can fail, and that any potential failure modes cannot result in serious harm. You do realize that should someone install your kit on their car, and the rubber fuel return line you supply/instruct them to use happens to rupture, you would be completely and totally liable for the ensuing fire? Also, should more than a small percentage of the kit purchasers have engine problems directly related to your kit, it would completely destroy your credibility to any and all future potential customers, not to mention any potential liability should someone decide to come after you legally.

I do not wish to sound like I am trying to talk you out of producing a kit, or trying to say what you have done is not impressive (honestly, the numbers look very good). I am trying to make you look a the big picture, and help you make a better product, and keep you out of trouble. Luckily for you, you have nowhere near the legal ramifications in this area as my company does for the products I help design (hell, we get sued big time for stuff that is completely and totally beyond our control, and not our fault in the slightest)

IMHO, if I had both your's and Terry's kits in front of me right now, and I was going to purchase one of them, I would honestly have to choose Terry's, despite your impressive output numbers, because I know Terry understands the concept of properly and completely engineering a product before putting it out to the market.

In no way is this post intended as a slam toward you or your kit, nor an attempt at making Terry's stuff look better, just my view of the situation. I am all for free market competition, may the the best overall kit sell better.

terry yes i am taking out timing as boost comes on and my a/f is running 12.8 to 13.0 at wot this is what we shoot for on our dyno with boosted cars

i get very good gas mileage

no offence taken

i was doing the final c/r at about 23,24 so we are close
all i can say is it is all stock and the stock FJA8 computer is controlling the 42psi injectors and the recal. 70mm ported mass air with one of our custom chips that we do here

Rara as i said in my post the fuel return system and the in line pump DOES NOT come with it

as for you doing terrys kit im kool with that ,so he has some out there that he has tested for some time ,i guess that is why you would go with his

my kit comes ready to install and play no programing to be done no hours and hours of paying for dyno to do a standalone unit

and as i said i am selling it as a 220 to 240 at the wheel kit ,that can do 300 at the wheels if you do the inline pump and a return system
i would like fore everyone to install my kit and go to a dyno with a wide band heated 02 for a test run just to make sure ,if the customer is close and can come here for the dyno this would be free

thanks tom