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Only the 00 SVT had 10.25 CR
(and lost 44cc's displacement as all 00 or newer Duratecs did)
Stock SVT redline is 7000rpm
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Again you are wrong! :rolleyes:
IT's TRACTION!!! Spinning through 3rd gear is no way to make good ET's. (heavy 17" rocks don't help either - but woulda coulda shoulda)
I beat PhatSVT to 330' by a couple tenths. By the 1/8th had 2 tenths on me. (he ran almost 2.7 60' to my 2.2 - Imagine a 2.2 - that's ~13.6 @ 103!!!) TRACTION!!!
Either that or I make over 200lb/ft at the wheels...  Your call...
Get off the torque wagon silly... It's done run over your head... :phow about you get off my back loser. the fact remains, torque is what this car needs. so shut up and leave me alone. i never attacked you before, but now you are starting to piss me off. leave me alone. i dont sit there and pick apart your posts.. so why is your no life loser asss doing it to me? for godsake GET A LIFE, go tune your car if you have this much energy to burn. hp is a function of torque, YOU HAVE TO INCREASE TORQUE OR RPM TO GET MORE HP!!!!!!!!!!!! GO READ THE DEF OF HP YOU IDIOT!
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also, why do you think a 75 shot can run 13s but a +150hp blower can only run low 14s.. cause the 75 shot is making like 70-100lb/ft of tq across the board, and the s/c is only making tq at high rpms...
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Originally posted by bret:
how about you get off my back loser. the fact remains, torque is what this car needs. so shut up and leave me alone. i never attacked you before, but now you are starting to piss me off. leave me alone. i dont sit there and pick apart your posts.. so why is your no life loser asss doing it to me? for godsake GET A LIFE, go tune your car if you have this much energy to burn. hp is a function of torque, YOU HAVE TO INCREASE TORQUE OR RPM TO GET MORE HP!!!!!!!!!!!! GO READ THE DEF OF HP YOU IDIOT! Holy cow Bret! Talk about flying off the handle! I really don't think Demon was "picking" your post apart. Maybe he scrutinized you, but it is far from as insulting as your post. You should know from the last time you brought this subject up that it would start another controversy. Reap what you sow.....
1991 GVR4
Lots of mods done.
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Originally posted by bret:
also, why do you think a 75 shot can run 13s but a +150hp blower can only run low 14s.. cause the 75 shot is making like 70-100lb/ft of tq across the board, and the s/c is only making tq at high rpms... EH???  Nitrous is used once moving! Not off the line... (we are talking about Contours here - There goes your torque theory - again) Either car would run crappy if it spun a ton (proof in point a S/C SVT running 14.1 @101 with a 2.7 60') Plus the only car to run 13's with nitrous is a LIGHTER SE that had a great driver, solid mounts and a torque strap. (See that little snip about TRACTION! As in 2.0X!! 60' and ran 13.9) I'm sure you can figure out that a 2.7 60' would make that a 14.6 BTW 60' = traction NOT TORQUE... (See my other snip about my 2.2 60' and 200 TQ) As for getting off your case... Only when you get a clue... So not bloody likely any time soon :p
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This may be a little premature, but people need to chill out now. Bret I mean no offense, but I think you need to turn it down a bit. The name calling and aggressive nature of your posts only instigates arguements and if it keeps up this thread will be locked.
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
[[b]Moderator Cap On]
This may be a little premature, but people need to chill out now. Bret I mean no offense, but I think you need to turn it down a bit. The name calling and aggressive nature of your posts only instigates arguements and if it keeps up this thread will be locked.
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-Mark[/b] tell him to quit following my posts around and making his stupid comments and i will. i NEVER have instigated anything with this guy. and now all of the sudden he follows me around and runs his mouth. very annoying. the fact remains drag cars have TORQUE the csvt was not built to be a drag car, if you want to drag with it INCREASE TORQUE end of story, go hang around any drag strip and its not hard to see which cars are running sub 10s... big block torque monsters... when is the last time you saw a contour sit there and burn through tires and not go anywhere? it has traction... it needs torque if you want it to get off the line faster and if you want to get better ETs.
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Originally posted by bret:
the fact remains drag cars have TORQUE the csvt was not built to be a drag car, if you want to drag with it INCREASE TORQUE end of story, go hang around any drag strip and its not hard to see which cars are running sub 10s... big block torque monsters...
when is the last time you saw a contour sit there and burn through tires and not go anywhere? it has traction... it needs torque if you want it to get off the line faster and if you want to get better ETs. Um.. the old Big block theory is out of date. Seen many 4 cylinders run 10's and 11's - Yes turbo's or nitrous are used & yes that does add torque (like you mentioned - but not in the amounts you are talking or down low) Still not Right Off The Line though... Why... Traction... That's the whole point here... This car lacks traction so it's ET's suffer. That's why you get high trap speeds and high ET's. I am sorry you can not understand this. As for traction. I can easily burn the tires off in 1st or 2nd at will. Yes! At will, no dumping the clutch! A little in 3rd when shifting. I'm N/A... Not even forced induction... You completely ignore my posts of 60' times and what they mean, yet continue to be Beligerant and Ignorant. ...and you wonder why you think people are "picking you out" It's so easy when you make yourself such a willing target. Someone stuck "Torque Rules" in your head at one time and you use it as a crutch. I came from big block buicks & then turbo's. I love high torque ratings, but it's not the end all be all...
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Um.. the old Big block theory is out of date.
Seen many 4 cylinders run 10's and 11's - Yes turbo's or nitrous are used & yes that does add torque (like you mentioned - but not in the amounts you are talking or down low) Still not Right Off The Line though... Why... Traction...
That's the whole point here... This car lacks traction so it's ET's suffer. That's why you get high trap speeds and high ET's.
I am sorry you can not understand this.
As for traction. I can easily burn the tires off in 1st or 2nd at will. Yes! At will, no dumping the clutch! A little in 3rd when shifting. I'm N/A... Not even forced induction...
You completely ignore my posts of 60' times and what they mean, yet continue to be Beligerant and Ignorant.
...and you wonder why you think people are "picking you out" It's so easy when you make yourself such a willing target.
Someone stuck "Torque Rules" in you head at one time and you use it as a crutch. I came from big block buicks & then turbo's. I love high torque ratings, but it's not the end all be all... ok... lets see... david z (has one of the highest tq ratings on the board) ran 13s... bnoon (with a 100shot and lots of tq) ran 13s.... guys with 150+hp blowers and yet only 30-40+tq run mid to low 14s... you are right... now i see... sorry for ignoring the facts and just not listening to you in the first place. you are the end all be all, you are the contour guru.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Um.. the old Big block theory is out of date.
Seen many 4 cylinders run 10's and 11's - Yes turbo's or nitrous are used & yes that does add torque (like you mentioned - but not in the amounts you are talking or down low) now count how many of them have 9000rpm redlines and 500hp+. when you can redline at 9000rpm and have 500+hp and probably awd, you don't need to worry about tq as much... but this is hardly the case with the contour.
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