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#405423 11/27/01 05:11 PM
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Best dyno run to date has been 293.6fwhp w/ 214ft-lbs.
Figuring 18% parasitic loss of the drive train that put me at 358hp.

Since that dyno I had Terry Make & install a set of gutted exhaust manifolds & added water injection... During the dyno session where I was trying to see how much of a gain I was getting, the SC committed suicide. Below 4 grand with the water injection turned on i was getting almost 20fwhp over not using it, but after 4 grand the SC vibrations were so bad the car couldn't make any more power.
With the SC killing itself I pulled 252fwhp.

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hp/tq @ what rpm?


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Peak hp was at approx. 7050-7100rpms.
The torque curve peaked & went completely flat from 6,000rpms to 7,500rpms.

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#405425 11/27/01 06:35 PM
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Peak hp was at approx. 7050-7100rpms.
The torque curve peaked & went completely flat from 6,000rpms to 7,500rpms.

-Mark

Aha! No problems breathing then heh? wink

For kicks, i plugged you into car test with 358 hp @ 7100 rpm, 257 ft lbs @ 6000 rpm, redline of 7300, 215/50 tires 3100 lb curb weight and the svt specs. With a 1300 rpm clutch dump it was showing 2.1 sec 60 fts 0-60 in 5.3, 0-100 in 11.8, 1/4 in 13.4 @ 107.5, top speed at REDLINE IN 5TH (WOW!) 169 mph!!!
Wish the focus had a .32 Cd, Im loving those S/C SVT top speed numbers!


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#405426 11/27/01 09:12 PM
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Is it possible to fit a Vortec on a 3.0? If so what kind of times would a Vortec/3.0/N20 combanation result in?


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Pakrat, check my sig for your answer to the first part of your question. And the rest will be found out come spring time- damn winters!


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#405428 11/27/01 09:25 PM
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well talk to Rick (Buckshot77). he is doing this combo.


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#405429 11/27/01 09:41 PM
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If I left at 1,300rpms the car would stall. Can you recompute that dropping the clutch at 2,900rpms and 225ft-lbs for the torque (which is accurate)?

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#405430 11/28/01 05:03 AM
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If I left at 1,300rpms the car would stall. Can you recompute that dropping the clutch at 2,900rpms and 225ft-lbs for the torque (which is accurate)?

-Mark


0-60 remains the same. 0-100 in 13.5. 1/4 in 14.1 @ 107.5. Sure 225 is accurate? Anyway, its saying that for the 225 ft lb figure, you should DUMP the clutch at 1500 rpm to recieve a 13.9 @ 102.6. Look at those trap differences!? Also saying that 0-100 would decrease with the 1500 rpm launch to 13.3 but 0-60 would rise to 5.7. Showing that 2900 with ALOT of wheelspin! I bet! I couldnt launch above 1100 in my n/a svt!


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225 is accurate is I am putting down 214ft-lbs at the wheels. Parasitic loss for torque isn't the same % as HP. You only lose about 5% of your torque.

Keep in mind comparing NA to forced induction is the same as apples to oranges. At 2900rpms with partial throttle I am still in vacuum, releasing the clutch (notice I don't say dumping, because i don't dump the clutch) and pushing down on the loud pedal which allows the power transition from vacuum to positive intake pressure to remain linear. Wheel spin in minimal.

If you have seen the Spring Zing video there is a prtion where I race Matt galusha. I left from from about 1300rpms and he left at around 3 grand...
it wasn't pretty.
infact I had Steve Bassen in the car with me.

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#405432 11/28/01 07:29 PM
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Quote:
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225 is accurate is I am putting down 214ft-lbs at the wheels. Parasitic loss for torque isn't the same % as HP. You only lose about 5% of your torque.

Keep in mind comparing NA to forced induction is the same as apples to oranges. At 2900rpms with partial throttle I am still in vacuum, releasing the clutch (notice I don't say dumping, because i don't dump the clutch) and pushing down on the loud pedal which allows the power transition from vacuum to positive intake pressure to remain linear. Wheel spin in minimal.

If you have seen the Spring Zing video there is a prtion where I race Matt galusha. I left from from about 1300rpms and he left at around 3 grand...
it wasn't pretty.
infact I had Steve Bassen in the car with me.

-Mark


I got your torque figure from taking the percentage b/w your hp/tq on the dyno and converting that same percentage from 350 at the crank. Guess I was wrong. I put in the launch optimization for a Supercharged motor, allowing for vaccum/etc, guess it just doesnt understand the duratec/vortech very well, but...who does? wink Although I do believe a clutch drop may rid you of the stall at 1500 rpm rather than the slip/release method you are using. Again, its just a thought, its your car and you drive it everyday so you know it much better than I do. smile


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