Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums Modifications 3.0L Duratec ShoSHop are a bunch of Liars..My headers are coming....!

5/5 before custom chip 15/10 after.

I got the headers last night, but there is no y-pipe with them! WTF! I don't see any disclaimer that the headers don't include a y-pipe, I'm hoping it is a mistake. I emailed them right away, and I will call them on the phone really soon here.

I am hoping for the 10/15 improvement, but who knows since I am also going to be putting the 70mm T-Body on before it really hits the turf.
BTW, the headers I got look very clean inside, no overhangs or anything. Do you think that I should still widen them out a bit?

warmonger

Ok, I just found out that I got F**cked!

They are selling the headers only and not the y-pipe. I called MSDS and they say that ShoShop is only buying the headers from the kit and nothing else. They are expecting you to buy their y-pipe separately (which is a piece of shiit IMO)and of course they are making a killing.
I only save $100 going through them, but in the end, I'm short a $200 y-pipe and the extra hardware!
When I called the guy Tom told me that nowhere on the page did it say it came with a y-pipe...of course there are no pictures. I argued and all they will do is take them back and credit me the money. I don't want to wait 30 more days for the exchange and order through someone else when I have to report to Fort Leonard Wood on June 2, so I am going to bite the bullet and move on.
I will say that these Little Bi*ches are misrepresenting and should be driven out of business. There are plenty of other companies who offer quality products without lies.
***I ask all who might wish to order one of their products to BOYCOTT their business and find their products through someone else.*******
There is nothing on their page which can't be gotten from a reputable source somewhere else!!!

warmonger

That sux man. Are you still going to dyno with your current Y-pipe in place? Least that way we could see how the headers alone compare with the gutted precats.

...and this is why I ordered mine directly from Marty at MSDS...
I can't believe SHOShop sells them for $550 without a Y-pipe or a warranty. That's nearly full price!!! Mine were like $610 shipped to my door & I had them about 2 weeks before you did... (they were all the same batch)

(I am sorry if it looks like I'm rubbing it in, but...)

SHOShop SUCKS!!!

If I can convince just one person a day I am doing a good thing!

That sucks. It's shadey that they don't tell you that you don't get the Y-pipe but because it isn't listed you're supposed to assume you don't get it.

Check out this link , it's a report about SHOShop from the Better Business Bureau.

Just ask a former customer. :rolleyes: You'll get more "they suck" than "I like them", and much more "suck" votes from people that can't show up in person.

I have my old msds y if you want it Tom. It needs some work but you are welcome to it.

You know, it is embarrassing to get taken that way, and I have to say it does not happen very often. I could have just kept it secret, but I want the public to know that I want to help them, even at the expense of my own pride. That said, I understand where you are coming from Demon; you want to help people by showing them a better option.

I do have the option to get my money back and I talked to Marty already about it. He will help me out if that is the way I want to go. Marty also said that from the looks of my y-pipe it would probably dyno out the same, or maybe within one HP of his. As I said above, I was planning on using my own pipe anyway, but I wanted to recoup some cash by selling the MSDS pipe off.
No worries though, I'm over it already. If this is the only bad purchase I've made since I started this engine project last fall, then I can say that I am ahead of the game and ahead of most of the Dorks out there who are spending thousands on stupid little gimicks and 1 HP adders.

This is for all of you out there...Use my experience and thanks for your sympathies.

Kaiser, thanks for the offer, I will try my own y-pipe and then we can look at yours if mine isn't looking too good.

warmonger

That sucks, Tom. You know what, though, my y-pipe is kinda starting to rust. And I live in dry CO and NM. I can't say the rust is bad, but if it gets bad, I'll just do w/ true dual exhaust. So, if I were you, I'd just stick with your own optimized ypipe and say F it. Marty seems like a good guy, so maybe you should just ask him if he'll still warrenty your headers. Just a though. You'll like your headers, BTW.