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As long as they get the explosion on camera I'll be happy...  High CR and low boost equal far less power than lower compression and higher boost. If I went through all that work and money I would have gone the route of more power over a quirky boosted high CR engine. (though IMO 10:1 without an intercooler is borderline!) Guess I just like reliable power.
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It will be interesting to see what internal work they have done. I wish them good luck. One question though:
Why keep hyping the project so much, and on another (apparently rival) board as well?
I'm all for success as we all learn from it, but I hate the feeling I get with the "How You Like Me Now" attitude coming from all the posts.
Another thing I forgot. Why does it matter which intake you use if you are going forced induction?
The other thing that is interesting for all to note:
Straight 3L swaps with 3L heads and SVT intakes are making about 195-200 wHP. The stock motor makes 200 at the crank, and the only difference is the cams and SVT intake stuff. That is about a 40 crank HP increase from just switching cams and intake system.
Therefore I am skeptical that the manifolds will prove any greater benefit. The higher compression will be the biggest power booster.
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Originally posted by QWICSVT: By the way, there is a video/audio clip available at www.fordcontour.org of the first start of the car. Let's just say that no duratech ever has sounded quite like this.I bet it sounds just like my car when my y pipe came disconnected the first time I ran quarters with the "new" car. Exhaust was just exiting out of the downpipes, before the main cat. It did sound bad@ss, I will give you that. Stupid laws ....
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Hey, no rivarly from me. I have been a memeber here ever since I bought the car two years ago. And don't think me bragging, because frankly, what do I have to brag about yet? Nothing, we don't even know if the damn thing is going to work right or not yet (as we are experimenting). But if it does, it will certainly be something to be proud of and I will look forward to letting the car do all of the bragging for me (if that does happen). Warmonger, why so negative? Have I ever said anything negative about your project???
98.5 SVT ~ diamond white metallic custom DuPount paint ~ shaved antenna, trunk key hole, and ding strips ~ roof mounted antenna ~ 20% tint ~ clear corners (front) ~ Audi A4 sidemarkers ~ 17" Mille Mille Evo 5 wheels with Yokahama Parada Spec-2 tires ~ Koni adj. struts ~ Eibach springs ~ SMA rear strut tower brace (front no longer fits ~ Powerstop cross-drilled rotors ~ Mintex A/F pads ~ ploy bushings including motor mount insert ~ 3L conversion ~ full custom intake ~ custom Cardoc exhaust ~ gutted precats ~ 24lb injectors ~ 3L upper and lower intakes ~ Rear dome light mod ~ glovebox light mod ~ lighted moon-roof switch mod ~ fog light mod ~ Autometer shift light ~ FCO indiglow guages ~ body color interior bits ~ some custom sound Administrator www.fordcontour.org
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QwiCSVT.
I'm sorry if it comes off negative. I didn't mean that. I just am sensing that there is a lot of posts on here lately that seem to be justifying this CarDoc fellow and his board. I don't know the man and have no beef with anyone, but I am kind of tired of the 'colored' statements that seem to have the dual purpose of telling the CEG how great this guy is. I guess taken with the "super-exhaust" system posts there seemed to be a pattern. So no offense intended.
EDIT "I'm not saying that CarDoc is/isn't great. I only think that posting of information should be unbiased. If someone wants to convince people that this guy or his board is great, then use the general forum." END EDIT
As far as your car, I am rooting for you 100%.
You have to understand that I am an analytical type of person, and I have posted my feelings about the 3L intake in the past. This is not singled out towards you. My feeling is that that style of manifold is geared towards a torque curve that is more beneficial to an automatic transmission, as well as the info I posted in the above message. On the other hand, you are the only person I know of that is making the 3L manifolds work so far, so good for you. I hope that you get good results and are willing to share all of the details of the engine as well as a dyno plot.
By the way, I want to warn you about cutting your pre-cats out of your manifolds. I'm beginning to suspect that it has given me some driveability issues. I am presently searching for a cheap set of headers either new or used. If you do cut your exhaust manifolds, then make sure you have a spare set.
Good Luck, and again my appologies.
warmonger
You can call me anything you like as long as it's nice.(all lies accepted)
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Engine: 3.0 power!
Unique Stuff: Sunroof control module (#1 of 9)
Car Audio: Loaded and loud!
Check them out at
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Originally posted by javaContour:
Yes, it too is a nice project. I just think it is cool to see the blow by blow account of what is going on. Where is David Z's documented, BTW. I'd like to gander at that again. (And don't say do a search, since this is in the context of the current discussion.) TB[/QUOTE] here\'s david\'s page BTW, david's motor is now sold from what i've heard!
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Yes, David's engine is sold. 
2001 Mercury Cougar Aerogear WideBody Kit, Aerogear Carbon Fiber Hood 3.0 Hybrid 251hp and 229tq at the front wheels Eibach springs, Koni Stuts, Aussie Bar, ST200 R Strut bar, OMP front Strut bar, 19" RPM's 235/35-19 Nitto 555's All Alpine System - IVA-C801, DHA-s680, NVE-N852A, TCS-V430A, TMX-R705, TME-M580 x2, PXA-H900, MRD-M500 x2, MRV-f540 x2, SPS-0829, SPX-F17t, SPX-17m x2, SWR-1021D x4, RUX-4280 http://www.geocities.com/socal_neco/jimmy.htm
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Originally posted by jjennings: Yes, David's engine is sold. congrats to you.....I just didn't have money...
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Thanks Dion, I guess I now have to change my sig!!
2001 Mercury Cougar Aerogear WideBody Kit, Aerogear Carbon Fiber Hood 3.0 Hybrid 251hp and 229tq at the front wheels Eibach springs, Koni Stuts, Aussie Bar, ST200 R Strut bar, OMP front Strut bar, 19" RPM's 235/35-19 Nitto 555's All Alpine System - IVA-C801, DHA-s680, NVE-N852A, TCS-V430A, TMX-R705, TME-M580 x2, PXA-H900, MRD-M500 x2, MRV-f540 x2, SPS-0829, SPX-F17t, SPX-17m x2, SWR-1021D x4, RUX-4280 http://www.geocities.com/socal_neco/jimmy.htm
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What is David going to do since he is selling his engine?
David, where are you?
warmonger
You can call me anything you like as long as it's nice.(all lies accepted)
99 Silver Frost SVT. #226 of 2760
Engine: 3.0 power!
Unique Stuff: Sunroof control module (#1 of 9)
Car Audio: Loaded and loud!
Check them out at
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