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I have been keeping an eye on the cost of most of the parts. Any idea on the cost of the fuel rail replacement if I go with the later style?
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Yeah my car has a baby seat, its still fast.
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Is Micah's car OBD I? I only ask, because he's done a 3.0 swap, and it's a 97, and I don't know when Ford switched over to OBDII, was it before or during the "body" change? If Micah's car is an OBD I car, then you guys are set!
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Everything '96 and after Contours are OBD-II, including Micah's.
FWIW, car-part.com had some lower intake manifolds (which you will need to use with the newer injectors) complete for around $40+. You'll need to extend the rubber lines a couple of inches as the newer rails are a little bit to short for a direct swap to your car.
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Are those 96+ or 95 lower I.M.'s? Remember the IMRC is vacuume controled on the 95's... I know Ray McNairy had swapped to SVT upper/lower I.M.'s and made it work, be he never posted HOW he did it.. 
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You're right, the IMRC linkage will have to be modified. Not quite a direct bolt on. An extra '95 manifold would do no good to buy since he's got one on his car if that way worked... The problem is the fuel rails don't mount on each other from OBD-I to II. Also, the injectors have different sized holes that they mount into on the two different styles...
Brad Noon '99 SE MTX 3 point oh my God H.O. 179HP/178TQ BNMotorsports Floormats, powder coating, TB optimizing, Gutted cats, etc BNMotorsports is now the preferred distributor of Contour/SVT/Mystique Indiglo style gauges!!!bnmotorsports@msn.com
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I'm not entirely convinced that an ECU change/chip would be necessary. Let me think out loud here...
The displacement/injector size ratio of a stock 95 is 2554/16.66 = 153.3
An upgraded 3L with 19lb injectors 3000/19.8 = 151.5
That's pretty darn close! I think it is within the limits of the computer to learn around. I realize the 3L is not 3000cc exactly, but close enough.
Now I know this wasn't exactly science, but I just wanted to further spark the conversation.
-Lance
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Wow, That would be great. I have read about the lean conditions for the OBDII in the WOT position. Thats why I was thinking about the chip. Tha would save alot of cash. Does anyone else wish to chime in?
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Yeah my car has a baby seat, its still fast.
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