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Do you want sound or do you want performance? 
"I sense much beer in you....
Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication leads to hang over, hang over leads to suffering....., suffering leads to the dark side." -Chineseman 3:16
Steve Chang
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Sponsored by Street-Concepts
174.2 fwhp @ 150.7 ft/lbs (218 hp @ crank) - Pre-Headers
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You should watch that Brullen video I posted the other day. 2.5" mendral bent stainless steel piping with straight through mufflers. Sounds good and actually works good for a quasi-dual (at least compared to my old all crushed up stock exhaust pipe).
P.S. I'll be at the meet tomorrow, show up and see it in person.
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Originally posted by Derek D.:
How would you do it up?
I want a deep, throaty exhaust!
Derek Derek, from what the many systems I have heard, as of late, the Magnaflow mufflers seem to give the sound qualities that you mention, deep and throaty and won't sound like a 3.1l Cavalier Z24 (early 90's) as some of the exhaust systems may produce. It's all a matter of personal taste and that cannot be taken away from the end user. Nothing wrong with the other systems either.
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If you want a cardoc system w/ mandrel bends just pick up a JC Whitney catalog...sheesh they're cheap as ****!! and aluminized to boot. Any inner Diameter you want, 90deg, 45deg, flex pipes even, you could fab you whole exhaust from that Catalog, just don't buy thier mufflers they're crappy.
Ohsigmachi '96 GL MTX Zetec SS (SuperSleeper)
Suffice it to say my mod list has become so long that it is just ridiculous
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Trying to find the exhaust system I want is like banging my head against the table  I think I am overdoing my homework on exhaust systems for my car Derek
1999 Contour Sport SE (Black)
Duratech V6 MTX
Brullen Cat-Back Exhaust *LOUD*
S&B Powerstack Filter
Eurolite Xenon bulbs
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Not sure if they are still easy to get, but the Borla I had worked well for me. It had a nice low pitch idle, and a decent snarl on throttle. Might be worth looking into.
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Originally posted by OhSigmaChi:
just pick up a JC Whitney catalog...sheesh they're cheap as ****!! and aluminized to boot. Any inner Diameter you want, 90deg, 45deg, flex pipes even, you could fab you whole exhaust from that Catalog I'm sure someone could do just that...
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But then, if you weld enough pieces together, you will have enough inner lips or welds to negate the whole mandrel bent advantage... BTW, I did reproduce the Cardoc system at a local shop, and it cost me 375$ total. So you can do the math yourself... Oh, and I love mine, even with the crush bends 
Marco Tatta
98.5 SE MTX, Duratec
EGR block, fog light
fix, custom shift boot, monsterflow intake, Ecotek valve
Quasi dual cardoctor exhaust.
Hacksaw short shift, Momo race "s" carbon knob, ghetto rear strut bar, 16 inch cougar wheels with 225/50/16 kumho 712s
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Posted by Mangler: But then, if you weld enough pieces together, you will have enough inner lips or welds to negate the whole mandrel bent advantage... I used flanges on the pipe joints and then just dremmeled down the lips of the flanges joints.
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Originally posted by mangler: But then, if you weld enough pieces together, you will have enough inner lips or welds to negate the whole mandrel bent advantage...
BTW, I did reproduce the Cardoc system at a local shop, and it cost me 375$ total. So you can do the math yourself...
Oh, and I love mine, even with the crush bends Well if your a good welder and know what your doing you dont have those problems.
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