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Originally posted by RTStabler51: uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Neutral nothing in the tranny is spinning??? I don't understand this........
Originally posted by ZetecRacing: [b] Originally posted by 99blacksesport: [b]What does this do? Gets the tranny fluid all over the gears.[/b] [/b]In neutral with your foot off the clutch you'd be spinning the input shaft, right? Some part of this would be below fluid level, splashing it around. I always do the shifter swish before I go - didn't really think much about, I just noticed it always seemed to shift a little better after sitting if I swished the shifter side to side a few times. I don't know if the shift forks are below fluid level, but it seemed? to help.
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Originally posted by ZetecRacing: UMMM no you mis understood that... the clutch pedal uses the brake fluid the trans uses the ATF. I misunderstood? how do you misunderstand this: Originally posted by ZetecRacing on club-focus.net: UMMM the break fluid has nothing to do with the clutch it self the clutch itself uses the tranny fluid. sorry joe, but you were just wrong. there was no misunderstanding on my part, another member on CF even called you on it.
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Originally posted by Terry Haines: With respect to our Foci members (yes I do those too at HMS Inc) The clutch res on a Contour /Cougar shares with the brake, no ATF in the hydrauic clutch system.The stoc Focus MTX75 diff gears are the same as the pre 2000 cable shift Contour/cougar MTX75 and are not as beefy as the rod shift MTX75 or the V6 post MTX75 diffs.I work on MTX75 transmissions every day,with 14 Focus new trannies (MTX75) in the shop right now I think I know what I'm looking at.Its only a matter of time ,with power increases etc, before one of the side or planet gear teeth in the diff will let go.If you dont beleve me you are welcome to vist my shop and inspect the 'MTX75 'Death Row' or talk to the CEG's who were at Spring Zing where I took parts from 'grenaded' diffs!!!...its just a matter of time..... Terry, not doubting you in anyway. infact, with more power, i do not doubt the stock diff will end up granading on me sooner or later. Although, the slip/dump methond is the most driveline friendly method of launching the car and only pushing maybe 140fwp currently i(personally) do not see it being a huge risk for the trans in the very near furture. Doesn't really matter, i have a new trans(11,00kms highway) quaife, 4.06 ring gear and pinion and a FS flywheel going in in the next few days. I'm thinking about cryo treating the gear set though.... any comments on that terry? Good, bad?
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Shmee, first off I can admit that I was wrong about the clutch I wasn't really thing before I spoke but it's funny how you didn't seem the believe a word I said till terry posted on your site the same basic thing I had said. and now you come asking advice of him... ironic... sure felt like you knew it all over there teill terry posted.
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The MTX75 is a 'constant mesh' trans,which means all the gears turn when the trans is in neutral and foot off the clutch,its just the gears are not engaged but they do spin(buy a Ford CD and check the data and 'power flow').The shifter forks are at the top of the trans,well away from the oil,as this is a 'splash lube' trans and you have to start with your foot on the clutch nothing is spinning in the trans until you let up the clutch in neutral(which is why we pressure lube the trans in the 'Bulldog Box', key on, instant lube to all bearings and syncros).Cryo treatment may help but the basic materials are not the same quality steel as say a Quaife gearset & pinion or other 'premium' transmissions (Hewland/Fergerson etc etc).I think before we all try to guess what goes on in the trans study the Ford CD or at least tear down your own trans...best way to learn!...or ,if you are interested, I can set up a 2 day seminar at HMS Inc,I have no problem teaching this subject...regards TH
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Originally posted by Terry Haines: The shifter forks are at the top of the trans,well away from the oil,as this is a 'splash lube' trans and you have to start with your foot on the clutch nothing is spinning in the trans until you let up the clutch in neutral .... I think before we all try to guess what goes on in the trans study the Ford CD or at least tear down your own trans...best way to learn!...or ,if you are interested, I can set up a 2 day seminar at HMS Inc,I have no problem teaching this subject...regards TH Well, I said it "seemed" to help - but obviously it was just a "I washed my car and now it runs better" thing. And I'd love to tear into my tranny, but when my wife comes home and I have peices of a perfectly working car all over the floor she gets a little upset  (Plus there is the small issue of whenever I take things apart I always seem to have extra peices left over when I'm done :rolleyes: , I guess that just means I rebuilt it more efficently right)
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Can't help with the issues with your wife!!!... but could assist with the 'bits over' part!!!!regards TH
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Originally posted by Terry Haines: Can't help with the issues with your wife!!!... but could assist with the 'bits over' part!!!!regards TH You know, I would really love to come to one of your seminars! If I were still in Rochester, NY I could see driving out, but San Diego is a bit far. Do you do video learning tapes? But hey, if you ever decide to come to sunny San Diego, let me know. I'll buy a quaife, pay for install, and give you extra for the hassle of letting me "help" 
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Re considering the tapes etc to cover the whole car...just need 48hr days right now!
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Originally posted by Terry Haines: ...just need 48hr days right now!  Hey - at least that means business is good!
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