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#396119 11/13/01 07:10 PM
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Madmole, when does the rev limiter get triggered?
Nice common sense site of yours btw.

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Mole, I was looking around your website and noticed something interesting.. On this page about the Unichip.

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I was very disappointed to find that despite all the bits and the engine re-build had resulted in only 149bhp!!!! that's only 14bhp over standard despite claims of 10BHP by Powerflow, 10bhp by piper etc and all the head work.


All that headwork and cams and other junk only gave you 14HP over the stock 135HP for your Mondeo? The dotted line on that page shows 149HP, then the solid line shows your 166HP.

Are you saying that a 2.0 Mondeo will dyno at 135 front wheel HP? Then you got 14 front wheel HP from all your work, and then 17 more front whell HP from the chip. Or is that 135 HP at the flywheel for a stock Mondeo (as advertised by Ford), 14HP at the flywheel for the mods, and 17HP more at the flywheel for the chip?

You now have me really confused. That plot on the chip's page has, by reading into what you wrote, got to be flywheel HP. But the plot you posted here is your HP at the wheels. Where'd your other 30HP, since the chip, come from? I'm not seeing anything mentioned about getting 30HP on your webpage.

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Madmole, you are from England right? That explains it all. Zetec guys need to get on the bandwagon since Terry Haines has the 300BHP kit available.

I also notice you have alot of room in the enginebay for turbos and anything else you want to add in the future - cool!


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#396122 11/14/01 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by perry:
Mole, I was looking around your website and noticed something interesting.. On this page about the Unichip.



All that headwork and cams and other junk only gave you 14HP over the stock 135HP for your Mondeo? The dotted line on that page shows 149HP, then the solid line shows your 166HP.

Are you saying that a 2.0 Mondeo will dyno at 135 front wheel HP? Then you got 14 front wheel HP from all your work, and then 17 more front whell HP from the chip. Or is that 135 HP at the flywheel for a stock Mondeo (as advertised by Ford), 14HP at the flywheel for the mods, and 17HP more at the flywheel for the chip?

You now have me really confused. That plot on the chip's page has, by reading into what you wrote, got to be flywheel HP. But the plot you posted here is your HP at the wheels. Where'd your other 30HP, since the chip, come from? I'm not seeing anything mentioned about getting 30HP on your webpage.



Perry, I had the same discussion with Mr Mole over on the MEG. I said the details on his site does not match his claims but he insisted the plots were wheel HP. If you look here a different figure is claimed, 185BHP
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There is no mention of a Unichip on this site so it looks like the Unichip gave only 7 BHP as he was making 185 without it. I have suggested that the best way out of this is to dyno the car and get a calculated flywheel figure, if you like Mole, I will pay for this to settle our argument


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Paul, there is mention of a unichip on that site now, but still boasting 185......


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Originally posted by T-RedSVT:
Paul, there is mention of a unichip on that site now, but still boasting 185......


Sorry my mistake, which makes it even more confusing
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Chrome grill
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Black Diamond cross-drilled & grooved discs with Predator pads,
ST200 throttle body, upper and lower extrude-honed intake manifolds
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Current Project.. Building a ST200 powered MKI
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