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OK, I have tried to understand what the causes are for the excessively high number of blown SVT engines we have read about on the forum. I understand the oil pan baffle, hard prolonged right turn issue, etc.
What I am still trying to understand, is do we know if there is a correlation between using synthetic oil and the blown engines? I tseems as if everyone I have seen reported, was using Mobil 1.
Is this a fluke, or do we have a "foaming" problem with the Mobil 1 that does not occur with dino oil? I do a lot of runs where I take the SVT up to 135-140 so I don't want a "nasty" surprise of synthetic is the wrong way to go.
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2000 'Tour SVT
1764 of 2150
Silver Frost
36% Metallic Tint, all round
Upgraded sound system, Alpine 60Wx4 and
Boston Acoustics 6X9's
V-1 Radar Detector
This vehicle ROCKS! Faster, better handling, nicer inside, and more fun than my Integra GSR, uh huh!!!
(But fit/finish not as good...)
2000 'Tour SVT
1764 of 2150
Silver Frost
36% charcoal Tint, all round
Upgraded sound system, Alpine 60Wx4 and
Boston Acoustics 6X9's
V-1 Radar Detector
This vehicle ROCKS! Faster, better handling, nicer inside, and more fun than my Integra GSR, uh huh!!!
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Just out of curiousity, does anyone have any hard numbers on how many Contour owners have had engine replacements?
Rick Barnes
Zexel Torsen Inc
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'72 Yamaha R5C
'84 EXP Turbo Coupe
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It is a good question that I havent gotten a answer to.
As far as I can recall, all oil starvation related disasters that reported oil type have been with synthetics. Most were Mobil One and one was AMSOIL. I sent emails to both companies and got no reply from Mobil but AMSOIL sent alot of test data showing good antiaeration protection compared with some other oils.
In talking with Chris Reinke of team Contour, he mentioned that in an earlier race car (not a Contour)he had a problem with areation with dino Quaker State that was solved (per tip from another racer)by switching to Valvoline. So, it seems that under racing situations at least, different types of dino may have different froathing potential. Whether this applies to synthetics, I dont know.
I am still running Mobil One myself, but I have thought about switching to Valvoline dino. But, so many performance cars run Mobile One can it really be a problem?? Most likely, this can be explained by the high % of SVT drivers running synthetic. Most likely....
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Stock - except minor intake, exhaust, & motor mount enhancements
1999 Amazon Green SVT Contour (#554/2760)
Stock SVT Duratec V6 with:
Intake- K&N filter/75mm MAF meter
Exhaust- MSDS Y-pipe/Bassani catback
Durability-Ford "dual mode" damper, Mobil 1/K&N oil filter
179.2 FWHP at 6900 RPM
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Stupid question, but why does my SVT manual specifically state not to use synthetic oil?
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Alot of people on these forums use Mobil 1. Also the type of person who is likely to drive aggresively in long right turns and cause oil frothing, is also probably the same type of person who is going to care about putting Mobil 1 in their car.
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Speed kills, but it beats going slow! Simon Langley Black 98 SVT EO (#2119 of 6535) 269.3 FWHP, 195.4 TQ 14.123 @ 97.36 All go, and no show! Vortech, Quaife, Driveshaft Shop Stage II axles, Magnecore Wires, Custom True Dual Exhaust. CDW-27 1/4 Mile Registry
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Originally posted by Officer Cartman:
Stupid question, but why does my SVT manual specifically state not to use synthetic oil? What year SVT manual? My manual does not make the same statement. It doesn't prohibit synthetic use, but recommends allowing a generous break-in period before switching to synthetic. Might want to re-read that manual... ------------------ Brinn Riley Melbourne, FL '00 Black/Tan SVT Contour #560 www.mindspring.com/~cdw27 cdw27@mindspring.com
Brinn Riley
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Anyone blow their engines using Royal Purple Synthetic?
-Mark
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I have no data, but the synthetic and blown motor thing just HAS to be coincidence, as fast4dr and Dan Nixon mention...
The best proof would have to be what Dan said about almost ALL ultra high performance cars running syn. from the factory. There's a reason they use it...
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Originally posted by Officer Cartman:
Stupid question, but why does my SVT manual specifically state not to use synthetic oil? I second that challenge to go re-read your manual. SVT states that they do not "require/endorse" you to use synthetics, but if you do, to wait for atleast 4500-6000 miles for proper engine break-in.
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My car had motorcraft oil when it blew.
SVT with CE light mod and a camera mount. Naughty Pictures Why yes it is true, I am on my third engine.
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