Ok seriously here is a question for Antionio you and even icey mike. I the set up as you guys(konis ground controls but I have 18's) do and how the hell can you drive like that. I have my car set up with 6 threads up front and 3 in the rear. I can barly stand both the ride and have a hard time driving it around town because of our roads here (MI roads are real bad)I even had to make my mirko easly detachable just to get around town.