anybody can beat a s2000 if the driver of the s2k isn't ready. I've heard that if you launch at anything less then 7-8,000 rpm's you can only get a 8.5 sec 0-60. You can beat that time in a escort zx2. Its only those 7-8 grand launches that get the 5 second range 0-60 times. Unlike a bigger displacement (ie. V8) engine where you can make up for a missed launch with more throtle.