Let's see...
1/4 for John's car is around 15.1
David says he does mid to high 9's, and can pull high 10's, low 11's on one wheel the whole way down.
That wouldn't be a race.
PackRat, they've already gotten advice from the traffic ticket guru on the mailing list to get a lawyer to help them out. Since John may lose his license over it, he'll definitely be fighting it.
