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all i can say is tom clancey's rainbow six. thats how to do it. wink
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[b]I know this will piss off a lot of you but why doesn't the U.S. just mind their own business and live happily like any other country in the world. I don't see Canada get attacked by terrorists like the U.S.... I wonder why??? :rolleyes:

Canada can afford to sit back and be fat and happy because it has the United States living next door. If Canada would like to take the lead role in defending the Western Hemisphere from (formerly) Communism and (currently) Islamic fanaticism, be our guests. Defend Israel, secure petroleum access, support third world economies, mediate regional conflicts by way of putting Canadian troops in harms way, guard Tiawan from China, safe guard South Korea from Nort Korea, etc, etc. I would love the tax break.

By the way, how 'bout securing your borders. We're sick of all these friggin' terrorists leaking in to this country by way of Canada.

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See... The biggest problem is you guys think your the cowboys! Nobody wants you to safeguard anybody do they? The U.S. takes side in each war and helps one out for its own sake... Lets say two kids are fighting for their own reason and you go pick one of them because he has a lot of toys and you can be friends with him (good oppurtunty right?) and then beat the other guy up. Is that fair? If you want to be the COWBOY why not help the both sides? Try to make peace? Whats with this bulls.hit you guys are writing here this is the funniest and SADEST stuff I have read! Once again your not gonna get enemies by just doing nothing!
Instead of being the COWBOY going around helping out other countries go help out the homeless in your own country, does that sound too hard to do? Or you get nothing out of it? Or you guys don't have any homeless? :rolleyes:

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[/qb][/QUOTE]Hmm... You really think they are jealous?
Do you know how many people INCLUDING INNOCENT PEOPLE the U.S. have killed in the middle east...

You mean like the Somalis? Not MiddleEastern but just making a point...

I suggest you go read a bit before talking from top of your head...
U.S. has done way more things to all those countries and thats what happens when you piss off people not exactly when they get jealous!

They do not hate Americans because they are jealous. They hate us because that's what they've been told to do. They hate us out of ignorance.

I'll bet you life in Iran and Iraq was much better than life in the U.S. about 40 years ago... Let me think again maybe the U.S. was jealous shocked :rolleyes: [/QB][/QUOTE]

Huh? I don't understand this statement.

The United States will protect itself and its interests whenever and where ever necessary. We would MUCH rather do business with someone than kill them. Dead consumers are bad for business.\


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[QUOTE]]mm... You really think they are jealous?
Do you know how many people INCLUDING INNOCENT PEOPLE the U.S. have killed in the middle east...
I suggest you go read a bit before talking from top of your head...
U.S. has done way more things to all those countries and thats what happens when you piss off people not exactly when they get jealous!
I'll bet you life in Iran and Iraq was much better than life in the U.S. about 40 years ago... Let me think again maybe the U.S. was jealous shocked :rolleyes:
Let's go back 55 to 60 years when all of the Middle East could have been speaking German if it wasn't for the U.S. and the Allies!!!!!!

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Hmm... You really think they are jealous?
Yes...I do

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Do you know how many people INCLUDING INNOCENT PEOPLE the U.S. have killed in the middle east...
Point me in the right direction. I fail to remember the last time we simply stormed into their country and killed some people for no reason? confused


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Consider this point of view?

http://www.geocities.com/iraqinfo/index.html?page=/iraqinfo/gulfwar/overview.html

Is this true? i.e. the setup?
Unless I'm missing something, the author is angry because:
- The US only defends its own interests, not necessarily those of other countries
- The US press didn't publish articles about how much collateral damage occurred during the campaign

The first point is true. The second is false (I remember getting angry at some of the articles that criticised the amount of civilian damage).

The author has no legitemate gripe. He's trying as hard as he can to justify his hatred for the US.

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[QUOTE]Once again your not gonna get enemies by just doing nothing!
Tried that - didn't work too well prior to WWI or WWII.

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http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/MiddleEast/TerrorInUSA/faq/KilledMore.asp

Does 2000 to 8000 people count? frown
Not sure what the problem is... Sept. 11 prompted the US to take action against Taliban operatives... many of whom were killed. Or are we to assume that all 8000 were innocent bystanders?

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I think we should just agree to disagree. We have two completely different perspectives on the subject.

I think if Canadian civilians and military forces were the targets of the terrorists, you'd have a diffent view.

Most of the problems stem from the U.S. support of Israel. After that it is our continued presence in Saudi Arabia. I don't think that you can deny that it is the right thing to do defending Israel...and for that matter Taiwan and South Korea.

We have our noses into Saudi Arabia because they saw the potential for another Arab nation to invade them for their oil reserves. Who did they turn to? The U.S. We struck an alliance that benefitted both nations. They got U.S. military hardware on the cheap & our committment to protect them in the event of a war, and the U.S. got a guarantee that we would never be held hostage for oil again (oil embargo or the '70s). Our interest in Saudi Arabia has irked the radical Islamic fundamentalists. They see it as the Western infidels infecting they're holiest of holy lands.

Agree to disagree...

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