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For you globalists, read this:

Is Protectionism America\'s future?

I couldn't agree more!


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I would say it is a little extreme (Comparing America and losing its industry to Great Britain during the two world wars), but it certainly makes a solid point.

I love the ending where everyone was all up in arms about the tariffs and then the results were never widely publicized. I do remeber hearing about this, but never the outcome!!!!!

Then again, we can't go sticking our heads in the sand aka the 1920's and 1930's when the world was falling apart around us.

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That WWII reference was completely nonsensical, but that's pretty much par for the course for Buchanan. Isn't he the same guy that always b*tches about how farmers get paid for doing nothing? And now he's saying it's a shame that they can't afford to compete...

I don't have any problem with limited trade restrictions, but the problem is products will become more expensive, reducing purchasing levels.

Not to mention the long-term political effects of saying "screw you" to our trading partners. There might not have been any major retaliation for the steel thing, but rest assured the act will be remembered.

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Here's an interesting point that Pat made:

"As goods produced by $2-an-hour foreign labor poured into the United States, they have killed off many remaining U.S. factories. "

This argument holds no water when looking at history, even recent history. This is the same argument that was used in the early 80s in the car industry.

Now look and notice that the US has the least expensive skilled automotive labor force in the world. This is why all the "foreign" companies are building factories and assembly plants here.

But then Pat Buchanan has absolutely NO background in economics! His undergrad degree from georgetown is in English and Philosophy! He does have a graduate degree from Columbia..in journalism! While I do concede that he is a bright, intelligent individual, he does not have the skills nor the educational experience to form fully rounded, valid opinions on the economic status of our nation.

He is a man who is informed and motivated simply by the protectionism he saw in his father and many of the men he idolized as a young man, such as Joe McCarthy.

Here is some interesting background on Pat Buchanan:

Pat Buchanan inherited several of his father's controversial views. Many of those are outlined in his new foreign-policy book, A Republic, Not an Empire, in which he says Nazi Germany posed "no physical threat to the United States after 1940" and that because Hitler's aim was to move east, into Russia and other parts of Eastern Europe, the United States should have let him complete his mission because the areas were not significant to the U.S. A vehement isolationist, Buchanan's book also lashes out against intervention in areas such as Kosovo: "We have no vital interest in that blood-soaked peninsula."

He has also been widely accused of being anti-Semitic and racist. In his book, he rails against Jewish influence in foreign policy and the influx of immigrants. "No nation has ever undergone so radical a demographic alteration and survived," he said. Fellow conservative William Buckley labeled him an anti-Semite after he criticized President Bush for U.S. involvement in the Persian Gulf War.

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"There are only two groups that are beating the drums for war in the Middle East - the Israeli Defense Ministry and its amen corner in the United States,"

? Pat Buchanan, on the Persian Gulf War
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or you can read a synopsis of some of his views here: F&^%*D UP views

As you may be able to tell, I am not a fan of Pat Buchanan, or much of what he espouses.

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Funny thing is that most of the countries with $2/hour labor don't have the extensive transportation, reliable electric power and communications networks that the USA does.

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I quit listening to Pat when he proposed putting low-intensity landmines along the US/Mexico border to slow the influx of illegal immigrants.

Pol Pot and him have a few things in common, it seems.


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Mike, what credentials do you have in the field of economics? or world history? or world politics?
"The US has the least expensive skilled automotive labor force in the world" - are you out of your mind?!!!!!!!
With wage rates, health insurance, unemployment insurance contributions and other benefits, the US autoworker is probably the best compensated in the world! The reason why Jap and other companies do business here is because of productivity and government incentives, i.e., tax breaks, etc.
The $500 billion per year trade deficit is a reality and testament to the extent we rely on foreign goods and how little the rest of the world buys from us. Many American products are virtually banned from import into protectionist Japan for example, especially automotive products. The rest of the world certainly does not play by the same rules as we do, why should we?
As Buchanan's view on intervention in areas such as Kosovo: "We have no vital interest in that blood-soaked peninsula"...he is absolutely right!!
Have you you checked out what has gone on there since the illegal Nato invasion?
Thousands of Serbs and other non-Albanians have been killed or assaulted, hundreds of Christian churches have been desecrated or destroyed and what remains of the "minority" is forced to live in virtual ghettos! All because we supported the bin Laden backed narco-terrorists, NOT freedom fighters as the gullible American people were led to believe by our puppet media. It was and still is a disgrace and crime what the US and Europe did to the Yugoslavian people and we should all be ashamed!
"No nation has ever undergone so radical a demographic alteration and survived," he said - also correct! While countless other countries have suffered civils wars because of diversity, we are embracing it the the massive waves of immigrants form third world countries! In fact, IIRC, eight of the top ten countries where immigrants to the USA originate are third world.
Diversity didn't work in the USSR/Russia, Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Czechoslovakia, too name a very few, and it isn't going to work here - September 11 proved that!
Bottom line? We should be more concerned about our own here, especially our industries. The global economy concept is a bunch of BS with the intent of beating down American wage rates and eliminating the middle class.
Mr. Keitz I am astounded by your ignorance. Please explore the FACTS before you make wrongful statements like the above!


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Diversity didn't work in the USSR/Russia, Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Czechoslovakia, too name a very few, and it isn't going to work here - September 11 proved that!
It's people like you who scare the crap out of me... :rolleyes:

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Good, I hope it scares a lot more people. Too many people here are apathetic and ignorant of the facts.


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Good, I hope it scares a lot more people. Too many people here are apathetic and ignorant of the facts.
What do you propose we do about our "ethnic diversity". Just export everyone we do not think is appropriate for our culture????

Please explain. confused

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