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i don't think that's true. i used to think that, and it might work on some women, but i think the ones it works on aren't worth your time anyways. just my opinion. my girl doesn't like to be treated like crap, and that's because she's a nice girl and doesn't have a complex.
I agree.


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One last idea to this.. is that some girls (me included) sometimes (very rare) have a mind block and end up with "Save the World Syndrome" Were the jerk must have something wrong with him and therefore we have to fix him or "save him." Usually most of us come to our senses soon and then get out!!!!

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lol, i sure hope not. that would be more appropriately named the "going out with a jerk because you feel bad for him" syndrome, which i don't believe exists.

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One last idea to this.. is that some girls (me included) sometimes (very rare) have a mind block and end up with "Save the World Syndrome" Were the jerk must have something wrong with him and therefore we have to fix him or "save him." Usually most of us come to our senses soon and then get out!!!!


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lol, i sure hope not. that would be more appropriately named the "going out with a jerk because you feel bad for him" syndrome, which i don't believe exists.
I think this happens far more often than you think.
I definitely think it exists.


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Not that I am claiming to be (or even close to)--LOL--but relationships work when both parties are mature. I am beginning to find that as you discover what makes you happy, and you are happy with yourself, people that "treat you like crap" don't appeal. It's not really a "nice" guy syndrome, it's really more of a "that guy has it together" thing. Sure, at first the bad guys appeal, but eventually, women want to treat and be treated with respect. Unfortunately, sometimes things don't always work out no matter how much you put into it. But breaking it down nice guy vs. bad guy isn't really it, it's more about where you are in your life in relation to the person you are dating/seeing/married to. And yes, in many cases, women stay with men because they have been put down enough to blame themselves, or they think they can "save" someone (aka mothering instinct). Sorry for the long post, but that is my opinion. wink


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This is in off topic, no problems there... Thanks Wthermans for that link... Anyways, what brought all this up is that I am talking to two girls right now; one that I am being very nice to, and the other (who is a bit well, umm, promiscuous) I treat her like to total crap. But while I am treating this one like crap, she gives me lines like "I dont know why I talk to you, theres just something that draws me to you," and that she cant wait to meet me when I get back to school. Then she will complain to me that she cant get a nice guy to like her. WTF?! Can anyone really be this dumb???

Now my problem is that I want the one I am treating nicely to like me, because she is very cool and I am really kinda liking her. But now I am worried that my treating her nicely will make her not want me. Any advice from the guys on CEG? What about the ladies of CEG, what do they think? Thanks for the help guys/girls!! -Nick


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Let's see, Nice guys finish last, Nice guys finish last oh and Nice guys finish last.

With that said I think it is entirely possible to find a nice girl, if you are a nice guy, but then again it's also possible to win the lottery.

I suppose I am a bit of a pessimist to it all, but I have seen the results so many times. I suppose somehow by a guy going up to talk to her (although being a ass in the process) the jerk gets points for being confident and shizzle like that. The nice guys simply don't get noticed, and if they do it's as a friend.

There are tons of reasons why these things happen, although ultimately it's probably a combination of things.

I see the deacon effect all the time, this is especially prevelant in bars and clubs. I think I should cut myself off before I get too rude

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I see the deacon effect all the time, this is especially prevelant in bars and clubs. I think I should cut myself off before I get too rude
This is why I no longer frequent clubs or bars anymore.


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This is in off topic, no problems there... Thanks Wthermans for that link... Anyways, what brought all this up is that I am talking to two girls right now; one that I am being very nice to, and the other (who is a bit well, umm, promiscuous) I treat her like to total crap. But while I am treating this one like crap, she gives me lines like "I dont know why I talk to you, theres just something that draws me to you," and that she cant wait to meet me when I get back to school. Then she will complain to me that she cant get a nice guy to like her. WTF?! Can anyone really be this dumb???

Now my problem is that I want the one I am treating nicely to like me, because she is very cool and I am really kinda liking her. But now I am worried that my treating her nicely will make her not want me. Any advice from the guys on CEG? What about the ladies of CEG, what do they think? Thanks for the help guys/girls!! -Nick
dude, seriously, don't play those games!
be yourself and don't play "good guy bad guy" games just to see if you can win the girls over (like that guy did on the website).
that's so wrong.
how many times do you hear guys complain about chicks and the head games they play (cuz they do!)? if you want a girl that doesn't play headgames, I suggest you yourself do not play headgames either.
the best advice anyone could ever give (and someone always gives it) is to BE YOURSELF.
if she doesn't like who you are, then she's not for you.
you don't want a one sided relationship where you like her tons but she only likes you a little.
don't be someone you're not just to bait the girl.
that's wrong wrong wrong!


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Funny I was just talking about this topic with another guy this weekend. Kind of messed up how nice guys need to be the opposite to get girls. I can only be my nice guy self so that might be part of my problem. I'm not going to want or be attracted to a girl that's going to be attracted to an ass anyway. Nice guys DO NOT finish last! You are simply not meeting the right person for you. It's harder but it will be the best in the long run and the relationship will be healthy.


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