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Originally posted by ancosta:
Most guys have had one of those girls who refuses to do it with the lights on, or won't provide helmet shines, or is so completely ashamed of her body that she needs constant reassurance, or otherwise sucks (not literally) in bed - and that my friend is a big PITA. Who needs the hassle?!?
Now if these things are not important to you, God bless you! But if they are, I can tell you that if the relationship isn't mutually rewarding sexually, then it is not likely to be rewarding period. How many happily married, couples in modern times have rotten sex lives together?
Now the sooner you guys fool around, the sooner you can tell if you guys are down for it. Maybe if you know about how she is in bed, or what she likes, that is a plus.
In the meantime, you can have some interesting, open chats about sex with her. This shows her you are comfortable in talking about sex in a mature manner, and that you have a reasonable amount of self-confidence. Plus, if you hit it you'll know what she likes in bed, and that will lead to lots of BJs and she may even help you clean your Contour 
oh.. my goodness.. i kept my mouth shut for a while, but ancosta, that's just horrible! if you depreciate/drop a girl just because she has some "confidence issues" in bed then you're f-cked up. how would you like a girl to leave you just cause you have some 'problems' that she doesn't want to help you deal with? (cause its a "HASSLE") whether it be in bed or not!!!!! hello, everyone's got some kinda baggage these days, damn. i think there's more to build on FIRST before a guy and a girl even THINK about hopping into the sack no matter how strong the sexual desire (and even if he wants to 'test her out' :rolleyes: ) sure some'a you guys can fairy around and nail any girl you please-- but as other men have said how can ya trust a girl who's 'easy'? as for this sex/relationship deal, it's really a matter of choice. there can't really be a set "time", other than when you both are comfortable with taking it to that level. just my perspective.
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Originally posted by ExDelayed:
.......when I am cheated on (especially with a woman!). Cars were getting towed, locks changed, etc. It was fun...... Are you totally and completly insane? Do Not, I repeat Do Not toss that one aside. Work that into a very rewarding and mutually profitable situation! Then, if you still feel jaded, do what you must. With that said: I am not trying to win popularity contests or get laid, so i will speak the (my) truth. The question is "How long do you wait or should you wait?". If you have a firm grasp on your manhood and are truly a genuine person, then the time-frame doesn't matter. If she gives it up quickly, then take it and don't ask questions. If you are worth it, why would you over-think the situation. It is guys like you (the ones easily throwing the word "Ho" and "Slut" around) that are the ones with self esteem problems. You ask, "Am I really worth it?" and "Does she do that all of the time?". Who really cares. Use your intellect to avoid the true sluts and don't sweat the motives of the others.
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if you depreciate/drop a girl just because she has some "confidence issues" in bed then you're f-cked up. how would you like a girl to leave you just cause you have some 'problems' that she doesn't want to help you deal with? /set political_corrrectnes="on" I must have overstated myself, I apologize. I should be a bit more succinct. I should also add that it is a misnomer to think that no one has issues, as you have pointed out. I am merely suggesting that for many persons, the quality of a relationship is largley dependant on their satisfaction with the intimacy component of a mature, adult relationship. Based on this premise, it is difficult some persons to deterimine their level of compatibility and satsifaction with the other person until they are intimately involved. Therefore, if one does not become intimately involved until they have invested a large deal of time and energy, and they are dissatisfied with the physical aspect of the relationship, it can lead to some unforseen emotional hardships for both persons. /set political_corrrectnes="off"
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Originally posted by ProudSVT:
Maybe it's the way I do relationships, but in all my good relationships the girl and I slept together within the first few dates. Maybe because my life is very chaotic & complex so I pickup on girls with simaliar experiences, but I take my time and focus with her in the sack, so the relationship is born. I think the older you get, the more true this becomes.. People's clocks are ticking, and you don't want to waste 6 months to find out the girl's lousy in bed - Because let's face it, she can be the nicest girl in the world, but if he's a dead fish in the sack, I don't want to be with her for the next 50 years of my life. When you're younger, you think nothing of waiting 3-6 months to close the deal. "You're not just in it for the sex", yet that's what you're looking forward to. I dunno, sounds like a contradiction to me. Don't get me wrong, I waited a few months with my current g/f, but that's only because she wanted to take things slow. But I'm not going to look at a girl differently if I hit it in the first few dates - If anything, it shows me that she's comfortable with her sexuality, and that's a good thing in my book.
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Originally posted by Keith W:
No sex before marraige! We just had our 24th anniversary, May 9th, we were both virgins. No regrets! Ah....yeah.. :rolleyes: That may work for some - but not everyone. I have to agree with ancosta, that unless you are VERY satisfied sexually with your partner, it's going to go to **** real quick. Relationaships really have to be a "package deal" You have to have everything - NEVER settle; cos you WILL regret it later. Your partner has to make you laugh, has to challenge you mentally with stimulating conversation, they HAVE to have similar interests or at least NOT have a problem with your interests and of course, they HAVE to rock your world in bed. This is especially important for women as most of us know that men can get off almost every time, but it takes a lot more for women. (So guys - stop being selfish and treat your women like princesses - give them what they need) MY opinionI would have to say that unless you have slept with at least a couple of people before choosing "the one" - then it is IMPOSSIBLE to be satisfied. Maybe women can deal with it better than men, but no man can tell me that after the first time he ever has sex, that he isn't wondering what the next girl will be like; better - worse. And THAT my friend can cause a LOT of trouble if it plays on your mind too much. Like my girlfriend told me last night - she knows a married woman who was a virgin when she was married, and now at 50 something is regretting not being with other people cos she doesn't know if she missed out on something. And even if she HASN'T, it obviously it affecting her now! Like someone else stated earlier, we ARE animals, albeit more intelligent (I hope) than a dog, but our instinctys, especially a mans is to procreate as much as possible to pass on his "seed". This doesn't mean I think that people shouldn't be married - hell no. I am all for marriage - even though mine went to crap. So to get back on track - take your time with this girl, but only sleep with her if everything else is making you happy. If anything rubs you badly the wrong way then keep it in your pants and move on. My $0.02c
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Originally posted by ancosta:
/set political_corrrectness="on"
I must have overstated myself, I apologize...
...it can lead to some unforseen emotional hardships for both persons.
/set political_corrrectness="off" TOO FUGGIN funny, even in a serious topic! Ray
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Originally posted by HellaHydro: Originally posted by Justin Rempe:
[b]I totally agree with Antonio's logic. He and I have the same overall thoughts on matters like this.  [/b]Yeah, grab his d*ck why dont you! :rolleyes:
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When the sex life is complicated the whole relationship can be complicated!
I agree with Anacosta.
If you don't find out soon about how the sex will be it is very very hard to maintain a loving relationship without intimacy.
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