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#331494 06/21/02 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by MarkO:
Very hard luck to the US...what a game !

This was the first US game I've caught this WC (at work for the others) and I am amazed at the difference in skill between now and '98. Kahn kept Germany in it, that was the only difference I could see.

No one will take the US for granted from now on.
Didn't see it, but I head the US outplayed them and made a good showing. It's nice to see them playing at world class level.

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BTW, weren't the current rules used in world cup soccer based on the USA's original football (soccer) rules? I know the origins of the game itself date back to Egypt, but I believe the soccer/futbal we know today is based on american rules. It's about time we take back OUR sport. smile I read this recently, but I don't have the article or the backup to prove anything, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think you need to read that article again because THATS the BIGGEST load of CRAP i have EVER heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As For "TheCrisocGuy", your a freakin idiot, you can't even put a simple sentance together! GROW UP!

And yes US did play well, but in NO way "outplayed" germany :rolleyes:

Brazil is on their way to winning the finals for sure now!


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I watched the game before going to class this morning.

WHAT A GAME!!!

The US was very respectable. The difference in penalties was the difference in the game, plus the Germans were able to simply out muscle the Americans.

Many exciting chances for the American team, and a great game to watch.

Why is soccer not popular in the US as a spectator sport?

It is not TV friendly. The game doesn't stop, except for a half. US TV is paid for largely by ad revenue. TV overseas is not always paid this way.

So kids play the game, but they don't stay attached because it not as available on TV

My $0.02

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I think you need to read that article again because THATS the BIGGEST load of CRAP i have EVER heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, with all those exclamation points backing you up, I stand corrected...

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Originally posted by Simon96SE:
[b]I think you need to read that article again because THATS the BIGGEST load of CRAP i have EVER heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, with all those exclamation points backing you up, I stand corrected...[/b]
If you REALLY want me to back it up I will!

Part One:
A Football match takes place in a Russia in 1810.

The game of football began modestly enough, yet it had certain durable qualities, and it inspired a particular kind of determined devotion in its followers. The games that are now known as Rugby and Association Football began in England about halfway through the present century. There are records of earlier forms in China, at least two thousand years ago, in ancient Greece and Rome. But it was in England that football began to take the shape we now recognise, and it is here where we begin our history of soccer

Part 2:
1863
This, then was the sequence of events that led to the forming of the Football Association, a turning point in the history of soccer. The following clubs sent representatives to the meeting at the Freemason's Tavern on October 26: Forest (later to become the Wanderers, first winners of the FA Cup); NN Kilburn (NN stands for No Names but the club was always known by its initials - like WBA); Barnes; War Office; Crusaders; Perceval House, Blackheath; Crystal Palace; Blackheath; Kensington School; Surbiton; Blackheath School. In addition Charterhouse School sent an obsever and some unattached footballers were present.

It was agreed that "the clubs represented at this meeting now form themselves into an association to be called The Football Association."

The ordeal of adopting a common set of rules however could not be carried out immediately because a minority of clubs led by Blackheath favoured the inclusion of the Rugby School game - the ancestor of today's Rugby Union game. At a further meeting on December 1st the Rugby advocates were defeated by 13 votes to 4 and withdrew from the Association. On December 8th the proposed rules were formally accepted. For the record these first F.A. Laws were:

1 - The maximum length of the ground shall be 200 yards, the maximum breadth shall be 100 yards, the length and breadth shall be marked off with flags; and the goal shall be defined by two upright posts, eight yards apart, without any tape or bar across
them.

2 - A toss for goals shall take place, and the game shall be commenced by a place kick from the centre of the ground by the side losing the toss for goals; the other side shall not approach within 10 yards of the ball until it is kicked off.

3 - After a goal is won, the losing side shall be entitled to kick off, and the two sides shall change goals after each goal is won.

4 - A goal shall be won when the ball passes between the goal-posts or over the space between the goal-posts (at whatever
height), not being thrown, knocked on, or carried.

5 - When the ball is in touch, the first player who touches it shall throw it from the point on the boundary line where it left the
ground in a direction at right angles with the boundary line, and the ball shall not be in play until it has touched the ground.

6 - When a player has kicked the ball, any one of the same side who is nearer to the opponent's goal line is out of play and may
not touch the ball himself, nor in any way whatever prevent any other player from doing so, until he is in play; but no player is
out of play when the ball is kicked off from behind the goal line.

7 - In case the ball goes behind the goal line, if a player on the side to whom the goal belongs first touches the ball, one of his
side shall he entitled to a free kick from the goal line at the point opposite the place where the ball shall be touched. If a player
of the opposite side first touches the ball, one of his side shall be entitled to a free kick at the goal only from a point 15 yards
outside the goal line, opposite the place where the ball is touched, the opposing side standing within their goal line until he has
had his kick.

8 - If a player makes a fair catch, he shall be entitled to a free kick, providing he claims it by making a mark with his heel at
once; and in order to take such a kick he may go back as far as he pleases, and no player on the opposite side shall advance
beyond his mark until he has kicked.

9 - No player shall run with the ball.

10 - Neither tripping nor hacking shall be allowed, and no player shall use his hands to hold or push his adversary.

11 - A player shall not be allowed to throw the ball or pass it to another with his hands.

12 - No player shall be allowed to take the ball from the ground with his hands under any pretext whatever while it is in play.

13 - No player shall be allowed to wear projecting nails, iron plates, or gutta percha on the soles or heels of his boots.

The rest of the "Histoy" of Football can be found here http://www.11v11.co.uk/textpage.php3?linkpageid=158, let me know when you see ANY mention of the US having ANYTHING to do with the rules or football :rolleyes:


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Thanks for the info.

Although, I'm not sure at what point you made me look silly. In my post regarding the rules, I merely stated that I had read that in an article somewhere and please correct me if I am wrong.

You responded with:

"I think you need to read that article again because THATS the BIGGEST load of CRAP i have EVER heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

What an excellent display of class and dignity, not to mention all of the great information provided. I really appreciated the well-thought out response.

If you had just done your google search for soccer origins before making the boorish reply, you would not look so bad right now.

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Would you guys stop this argument !!

This is my THREAD !!!

I want to celebrate soccer here not discuss history !!

:p :p :p

As far as I am concerned... Miller (sp?) was the founder of soccer... and he was English...

At least that is what I was taught in middleschool... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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OK, it's your thread again. Go KRAUTS! laugh

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Dammit! I should have voted for Germany.... NOT! :p laugh
I voted for England too. Figures.. :rolleyes:


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that was certainly a hard-fought match. great to watch. Germany just had more energy in the end, but the US played a VERY good tactical game, IMO. they need to play with the ball less, tho. no more than 2 or 3 touches when approaching the goal.

as for football not being a US sport, it should be. definitely one of the most physically challenging sports out there that is played with class and unity. a real team sport. that type of example is what we need here, not superstar multi-million dollar giants who play to get paid. we need people who play because they love the sport and they work hard at it.

go football!!!


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