...before we abandon God and religion to the ashes of history and embrace the Scientific Principle as the new ethos of our existance, let's take a look at a few interesting items I would like to see scientifically measured:

1) Love
2) Hate
3) Trust
4) Doubt
5) Faith

These 5 items are concepts that are physically/spiritually/emotionally manifested by human beings on a day to day basis. They form the backbone of our nature, our very existance on some level. Without them, a core part of a human (or what we define ourselves to consist as human) is missing. There have been more wars fought, more peace made, more lives created and lost due to one or a combination of one or more of these 5 concepts than anything else in our history.

Please postulate these. Form an applied theory here. Conjure a proof.

Can't?

Such is the nature of God and his existance, or so I so very humbly would assume.

In my experience, science can't explain everything; nor can religion. I've ages of learning left to do about both, unfortunately like everyone else here I've only a limited time on this ball of dirt called Earth to do so.

I've seen things that science and science alone has fundamentally explained to me (simply due to the fact that I've yet to find a passage in the Old or New Testament that covers nuclear fission well enough to sate my curiosity).

Then again, I've witnessed a couple of things in my life that can't be explained by anything else other than God and his will. Science couldn't even begin to touch or describe these happenings/experiences.

In my mind, many people's failing with the concept of God is tying religion to it (yes, the two ARE seperate). Organized religion is an imperfect human interpretation of God and how to best communicate, worship and get to know him, IMHO. Proof of it's imperfection, you ask? Take a look at all the screwups the Catholic Church has done throughout history (sorry, Catholics, but those were the first that came to my mind. There are others FAR worse out there, in effect if not in scope). If you base your opinion of God simply on what organized religion has to offer, I think you are doing yourself a huge disservice. I know I was at the time...

To those that are more cerebral than social in this issue, here's another one for you. Grasp the concept of infinity, please. In my experience and readings, the finite mind simply can't comprehend or understand, even sucessfully explain an infinite being or concept.

If it sounds like I belive that both science and the concept of God can and even should co-exist, then you've hit the nail on the head...

Finally,

"The intellectual is constantly betrayed by his vanity. Godlike he blandly assumes that he can express everything in words; whereas the things one loves, lives, and dies for are not, in the last analysis completely expressible in words."
-Anne Morrow Lindbergh

but also just as applicable:

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
-Galileo Galilei

Regards,


JaTo
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