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Originally posted by Viss1:
Islam doesn't preach that. Sounds like it's time to read a book, search the net, or talk to some Muslims to learn the real deal.
The Taliban is more of a tribe than a religion. Even if you consider them a religion, they're a ridiculous offshoot comparable to the KKK being an offshoot of Christianity.
I'm amazed there are people who still have these misconceptions. Literally boggles my mind. Taliban is not more of a tribe, it is an extreme form of the religion. Just like hassidic is the more strict form of Judaism, Taliban is the more strict form of islam. And dont even try to tell me that the KKK is an offshoot of christianity. The two have nothing to do with eachother. What boggles my mind is the fact that some people still feel that the hippie way of loving everyone, and that no-one can be wrong because we are all different, is a good way to live! Respond if you want, but I am finished with this thread now, this is not the best place for discussing religion.
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Originally posted by dnewma04: Originally posted by devotedad: [b]Got the popcorn poppin in the microwave, got a six pack of diet pepsi, this ought to be good!!! I'm gonna sit back and enjoy this one. Anybody care to join me? There is room in this here couch. :rolleyes:  puttin on my 3-d glasses now, Dave. Thanks for setting up the dolby surround sound. I know you just have to show off your area of expertise!!! 
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Originally posted by Sleeper:
BA from George Fox College in Biblical Studies, which means i could be a Priest if I wanted to.
Its only use to me, was to give me a well rounded education to go with my BS in Electrical Engineering (to be completed August of 2003).
As far as my religious association, I am a "Classic Metaphysician".
Does it really matter when the evil was purpotrated?
Come, 9-11 was so 9 months ago, give it up, its in the past.
The fact the evil happened at all is a sin.
Time does not heal all.
I'm not saying religion is bad, I'm saying those who twist it around for their own cause, usaually the zealots (like the Taliban/Osama Bin Laden/The Crusades/ Nazis), give religion a bad name and taint the weak minded with it.
I don't think religions should try to force their beliefs on others.
Religion should be a personal experience. I'd have no problems letting it go if I didn't have relatives die in the WTC Towers. I've served this country with the US Navy, and I have a right to "not" let it go. I have no problems with any religion or faction thereof, unless they kill my family. That, I take offense to. So **** the Taliban, and peace out Muslims. And in conclusion... EDIT- Since this is a topic that will absolutely make my blood boil, I'll no longer be posting. It's just a bit too personal for me.
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What I said about 9-11 was to make a point, bcause an atrosity happened in the past doesn't mean it is forgiven.
I too serve in the military.
I have had friends die for this country and to protect its interests.
I am not trying to anger anyone, simply point out facts.
Blind faith is dangerous (suicide bombers for example).
What the Taliban did for the Musilim religion ,is alot like what the KKK did for Christianity.
And the KKK, while not a recognized sect of Christianity (just like the Taliban in not a recognized sect of Islam) it was founded on the strict interpretation of Christianity by Christians, for the good or their religion.
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What the Taliban did for the Musilim religion ,is alot like what the KKK did for Christianity.
And the KKK, while not a recognized sect of Christianity (just like the Taliban in not a recognized sect of Islam) it was founded on the strict interpretation of Christianity by Christians, for the good or their religion.
The difference is that most of the decent christians in the world and other religions abhorred the KKK and fought against it... But the Muslim community doesnt do anything to help themselves along to denounce and add some separation from these extremist groups. They sit idle on the fence and cry foul when we talk about Islam in a bad way,,,Well, its their responsability and in their best interest to campaign a bit in their own behalf, especially here in USA where we just absorb all media, and not really think thru and make our own minds..
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Originally posted by blitzkrieg53:
...[Blah Blah Blah Blah]... Sorry, but god is not a fact. And not believing in one is not ignorance. The believers just haven't presented enough evidence to prove god. If I tell you my Contour SVT makes 900000HP, do you say "Wow, he has a 900000HP Contour SVT" or do you say "Really??? How about some dyno stats, pictures, anything to prove it" ? So far, I have not seen any solid evidence to prove the existance of god.
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Originally posted by whiteSE:
[QUOTE]The difference is that most of the decent christians in the world and other religions abhorred the KKK and fought against it...
But the Muslim community doesnt do anything to help themselves along to denounce and add some separation from these extremist groups. They sit idle on the fence and cry foul when we talk about Islam in a bad way,,,Well, its their responsability and in their best interest to campaign a bit in their own behalf, especially here in USA where we just absorb all media, and not really think thru and make our own minds.. A completely lucid & intelligent remark. I understand & support your view.
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Originally posted by daenku32:
Sorry, but god is not a fact. And not believing in one is not ignorance. The believers just haven't presented enough evidence to prove god.
The opposite is also true. Believing in God is not ignorance. The non-believers haven't presented enough evidence to disprove God. That is why these posts on religion always go on for 10 pages or so. No one will ever win the argument... well, not until the Lord comes back, anyway. (Sorry, I had to throw that in there  )
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Originally posted by daenku32: Originally posted by blitzkrieg53:
[b]...[Blah Blah Blah Blah]...
If I tell you my Contour SVT makes 900000HP, do you say "Wow, he has a 900000HP Contour SVT" or do you say "Really??? How about some dyno stats, pictures, anything to prove it" ?
So far, I have not seen any solid evidence to prove the existance of god.[/b]Evidence is exactly what it comes down to. Science can prove what religion only explains. To beleive certain religious views one must have blind faith and not question the almighty. I don't like that idea at all, it does not allow for mental freedom. All I ask of religion is physical evidence that can be scientificly reinforced. Calling somebody crazy that believes they were abducted by aliens, but then turning around and praising those who have near-death/out-of-body experiences that see heaven is ridiculous. The act is ridiculous, not the belief, so don't flame on me for putting down anybody's religion.
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Below a some passages taken directly from the Koran:
Fight and slay the unbelievers wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war. (Surah IX:5)
Fight and slay the unbelievers wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war. (Surah IX:5)
These are words from a loving, tolerant religion?!
Again, there is only one God who took on flesh in the form of Jesus Christ, NOT Mohammed, Buddha, Shiva or other false gods!
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