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I will be happy to prove you wrong about J.C. being some sort of requirement for success.

But that's another topic alltogether..

So if you have to be christian and have european ancestors, how come latin america is not prosperous like us? They are very catholic. And have spanish ancentors.

I really think we all got way off the original post's topic. The original topic consisted a story about several illegal immigrants that died in the dessert in an attempt to sneak into the US, and now their families are taking our government to court.

Total BS. They broke the law, their actions were at their own risk. End of story. We should not pay their families for their ignorant and irresponsible actions. Instead, we should tighten our border security.

Approximately 1 percent of the national budget goes towards welfare, while 50 percent go towards bombing countries that are already destroyed. So looks like not very much of your tax dollars are going towards the poor in this country, instead they are going towards killing families and creating homeless in other countries. Feel better about yourself now?

And no I do not believe we should put up drinking fountains in the desert.

James

50 percent of the budget is for military spending?
(I assume you equate all military spending with
bombing countries--which is not so).

That's not what I remember from the pie chart on the back of the 1040 form. I'll make a point of checking it when I get home.

Brian

I'm guessing it has something to do with the Mexican government being a little bit corrupt?

Doesn't have much of anything to do with religion, except in those countries where religion and government aren't separate..then the government seems to use religion as a tool to keep themselves in power.

Brian

I believe defense is closer to 1/3rd of budget.

I'm sure welfare is a bit more than 1%.

I don't believe the Federal Government pays the whole thing, but instead mandates a minimum the states must provide.

So please, look at a percentage of the entire tax burden, state and federal as well as the outlays, when looking at welfare costs.

What I want to know is how many of those welfare dollars actually end up in the recipients hands. Or, in other words, what is the overhead percentage of providing welfare?

However, in my opinon, defense needs to be close to 100%
of the Federal outlay.

Why? That is the number one responsiblity of the Federal
Government. That and foreign policy, and of course three
branches of Federal Government.

Building roads, stop lights, setting national speed limits dictating
what states should spend on welfare, etc, are not really the responsiblity of the federal government.

I did not call for a moratorium on immigration, only a limiting of numbers to historic levels. I am of the opinion that the current levels of immigration are too high.

I did not say that immigrants from third-world countries should not be allowed, only that they should not be given preference as they now are (immigrants from one particular country should NOT be favored over another).

My concern is that someone who comes here for material things may not necessarily have an appreciation for the freedom, democracy and capitalism that made those material things possible--if that is the case, that DOES hurt our country.

Brian

The more money the military sees, the less money is spent on public programs. This could include everything from welfare, to lother programs that affect everyone. So if the current state of our country is ignored, and more money is spent on military items, then as a result the state of country would detiorate. So then if there is nothing left, what are we defending?

Total military expenditures is around 50 percent, and that is after it has increased dramatically recently. Problem is I wouldn't be suprised if it keeps on rising as long as Bush is in office :rolleyes: . We are bombing countries everyday in the countries in the east, and that costs millions. Those millions could have gone to public schooling, or dare I say it, welfare, social security, and unemployment recipients. Careful what you say Demon, I know there are a few people on this website that fall into the latter two mentioned.

On that subject, I believe the government is trying to put the burden of financing public schools in the hands of the individual state governments. If I am correct this did not pass through congress, but if paints a nice picture of where the priorities within the government are.

Sure we got attacked, and I feel very sorry for all those lost in the september 11th attack, and I do not want to say anything that would disrespect those who are lost. Do you really think that if we kill Osama Bin Laden, that the whole Alcheida terrorist organization will crumble? The whole network is not structured to rely on one person, Osama gets killed, they go on.

James

I think there's evidence that military spending is
NOT 50% of the budget, not even close.

(And how much gets spent on foreign aid?)

On another subject....

Perhaps you mean Al-Quada?

Brian

From the Guvment themselves



See more details at:

We The Money Comes From and Where it Goes"

Why speculate, when you can actually use the same tool you use to post, to look up the answers?

TB