I would LOVE to see you factually disprove any one of the scientific findings contained within:

http://www.contour.org/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=38;t=005291;p=4

Please, be my guest. I HAVE been patient, as have others. I'm tired of the nonsensical arguments, circular reasoning, etc, that I have seen in these and other threads regarding this subject.

BUT UNTIL YOU DO come up with a VALID scientific rebuttal to the points raised there and, to a lesser degree, here, I do not consider this an intelligent discussion.

I heed the call of the curb