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Where's God gonna go when our sun burns out in 5.5 million years? Earth won't be too exciting after that.


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cpurser: that is my point exactly I can't prove the spark that caused the big bang just like you can't prove the creation of god. Becuase how can he always have been when there was nothing, same thing can be said about the big bang how did an explosion happen from nothing. So you can see that the evolutional theory is not alone in having some major what ifs. But the creationists theory just seems to have more far-fetched what-ifs.


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ASSVT:

Your point is taken. We will have to agree to disagree on that point.

But once again, my goal in this discussion was to provide evidence to show that evolution isn't "gospel," and that it shouldn't be taken as fact. And hopefully I have been able to do that for at least one person that has braved the 7 pages that this topic has become.


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Becuase how can he always have been when there was nothing,
your talking as if he has to be bound to the physical confines of the universe that he created. As if he has to abide by the same rules we have to exist by (eg. time) This is not so but I am at school and I have to go to class I can finish this later.


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ASSVT:

Your point is taken. We will have to agree to disagree on that point.

But once again, my goal in this discussion was to provide evidence to show that evolution isn't "gospel," and that it shouldn't be taken as fact. And hopefully I have been able to do that for at least one person that has braved the 7 pages that this topic has become.
I think the main differences between the followers of Creationism and Evolution is that people who believe in Evolution don't tell you that you are gonna spend eternity in hell if you don't believe in it.


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ASSVT:

Your point is taken. We will have to agree to disagree on that point.

But once again, my goal in this discussion was to provide evidence to show that evolution isn't "gospel," and that it shouldn't be taken as fact. And hopefully I have been able to do that for at least one person that has braved the 7 pages that this topic has become.
On that note I just want people to understand that creationism isn't "gospel", (pardon the pun) and that it shouldn't be taken as fact. Kinda works both ways doesn't it? Fact is we will never know. I guess I'm more comfortable with knowing that when I die, that's it, game over, lights out. But I can understand people not wanting to accept that fact.


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"My main goal of my posts here is to show that evolution is not science, and that it has not been proven as fact."

Ok, here we go again. Just based on the half-life of carbon 14, carbon dating is only accurate for less than 40,000 years. However, throw in all the assumptions that have to be made on top of the half-life calculations, and carbon dating's accuracy (as with all other dating techniques) goes down even further!

But, just say that the earth is 40,000 years old. According to evolutionist, that STILL isn't long enough for evolution to have happened. Fourty thousand years is a LOONNNGGG way away from 200 million years.
Ok, so evolution is not proven as fact...neither is creationism, and when it comes down to it, evolution makes ALOT more sense.

I know the earth is not 40,000 years old....you're the one who seems to have trouble grasping that fact. 40,000 years is an eye blink in terms of evolution. It's obvious that is not enought time for any type of evolution to take place. That is IF the world is only 40,000 years old - which it's not!

I can't seem to find anything about the dinosaur print, I know it was mentioned but I'm at work and a little pressed for time lol but that picture shows 2 "prints" like was said...now my question is, what was the dino print identified as? I would imagine something this groundbreaking would have a bunch of studies going on.

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According to the Bible, God has always been and forever will be.

And believe me, I am the first to tell you, that is a hard statement to accept. It is beyond my comprehension to grasp that statement. BUT, that is where my Faith comes in.

I agree that's where faith comes in as well...it is hard to know where everything came from. However, it is not it is not beyond our comprehension.....physicists around the world will one day have an equation, one inch long, that explains the universe as we know it. Might I recommend reading some booke by Michu Kaku (I think that's how his name is spelled). Very smart man...


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When the "great flood" killed off everything that Noah and company didn't load up on the ark. What killed off the ocean-going dinos [someone mentioned pleasiosaur for one example] that some of you suggest lived at the same time as man?
Please don't say they "drowned". frown


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scooby757:

That is a good question. These pictures are quite interesting:

http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=15


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OK I don't have time to read everything but I read someone saying how evolution and creationism doesn't necessary disprove the other. I believe that evolution is possible and tend not to believe in creationism. However, I do have a strong belief in God and believe that he is behind everything. Even he has to make everything out of something. Those that believe in creationism is saying the chicken came before the egg. Doesn't it make sense that god would create the egg to form the chicken out of? That is my belief because I believe the bible can not be taken literally word for word. It's not that I don't believe in the bible like someone mentioned, it is something that was passed on by word of mouth before it was written down. Also, how does anyone know that each "day" is not actually a day? a day is a measurement of time that came after the earth was created. How do you know how long he took for each step in creating the world?


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