Originally posted by T-red2000se: [b]quotequote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by scooby757: No one took a shot at my earlier question??? Oh well, here's another;
If you entertained the thought of a "god" creating "everything" from scratch, out of "nothing". Think about the tremendous amount of complexity in the design of just the "living" creations. The details tended to in bodily functions alone is mind-boggling. It seems as though examples of truely masterful planning and thought processes are evident everywhere. Yet, one of your "creations" develops a "glitch". Sin. So, as master, creator, of all that there is, anywhere, you decide that no personal visits to all men at once are necessary to quell the problem. No, you won't "stop the world", and everything in it for the VERY short time [with all the TREMENDOUS power at your command] it would take to "remind" EVERYONE of their "roots", and the proper way to indeed...live. And after 4000 years or so of sin, "build up", if you will, you decide the best plan is to make a virgin pregnant with your son so that he may die for their sins? Why would something like that be required if you are the "creator"? Why would it even work? Your sacrifice??? Why do YOU have to sacrfice? [your son] You're GOD!! It just seems like such a haphazard way of getting your point across after all you've acomplished before.
I feel like going on here, but you most likely see what I mean by now. I'm REALLY NOT trying to offend any body here. I don't think you are crazy, or stupid if you believe. I'm just throwing out a thought on the subject that troubles me. Why would something SOOO all powerful be reduced to using a "flawed" creation, [man kind here] to comunicate with the other flawed creations over the centuries [man kind again] to get his message out??? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------:
Let's first understand that man turned his back on God. Man was created faultless. Sin ruined that. Once God created people with free will, sin was up to them. Why was it this way?
Well, without the possibility of sin, we would not have been human. Would the world be without hate? Yes. Without suffering? Yes. But also a world without love, which is the highest value in the universe. Real love-for God and each other-must involve a choice. But with the granting of that choice comes the possibility that people would choose to hate rather than love.[/b]
"Without the possibility of sin, we would not have been human." I don't understand how a being can "create" man, and, "everything" of his own design and in his image, and then once they are "made" suddenly have no control over the "rules" governing their existance. If he is the end all/be all of existance, whose rules would we be breaking? A one and ONLY god would have no use of sin, hate, suffering, etc. etc.. Who made the rule that says to be human you must have the sin factor in there some place? So why would God make-up all these rules, and hence invent the actions themselves, yet try in all manor of odd ways to get "his" message across not to sin etc... It makes no sense to hope for an outcome you could have factored out from the beginning. I mean, you designed it from top to bottom right? Who would accuse God of cheating on the experiment? Man? Beast? I don't get it. It's so common to talk of all the power one minute, and having hands tied the next. How could that be? Who would keep God from changing things anyway he wished? On the one hand it's common to throw out examples of "rules" and "laws" of life, as if we follow the grand recipe book of "creating a world". Yet we are supposed to be the only ones, and God being the only one of his kind. So where did all the "laws of hate, love etc. come into being? They just came into being on their own?
"Man turned his back on God". Then I suggest he didn't try very hard to convince him of the truth. Someone capable of such grand creations should have no trouble convincing the likes of man to the point of NO skeptics with relative ease. Yet the being responsible for everything there is, has a real hard time with that one...?????
blk.99svt n.e.Ohio Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups...
