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..Thank you captain obvious :rolleyes:

Did egyptians write the entire bible??

What's absurd is the fact that you can't read the words on the screen in front of your face! No I'm not going to copy and paste the words here so you can see either. Common sense by itself proves that most of the stories in the bible are not factual representations of the way things happened. Especially when it comes to the creation story. Do you really believe that woman was created from the rib of a man? Come now....

There's nothing wrong with science, or scientific fact. And the reality of this whole thing is that god did not sit down and wave a magic wand and create the earth. We have theories that help us understand how the universe, our solar system, and our planet were created (more or less). One God getting bored one day and creating everything we see unfortunatley doesn't fit in there. Perhaps when we get to the very beginning of the universe - where did the "stuff" that exploded and created our universe come from? That's it.

But anyway, back to my original statement. Back when the bible was written...we know, that MOST people (Yes, Moses could read and write...moses was an egyptian prince..."his people" were mere slaves - when's the last time you saw an educated slave??) couldn't read or write. What's the easiest way to communicate with someone? Tell them a story. That person will remember that story and tell it to other people. The story will spread...by word of mouth - even to those people who cannot read and write. Whether or not you say so, the Bible is not 100% factual, and It makes sense because telling symbolic stories is probably the easiest way to convey a point, moral, lesson, to anyone..much easier than memorizing a text book and repeating it to someone else.

Yes, there are people who take the Bible literally...and that's just fine, but, to do so means you completely deny the existance of Dinosaurs, and other prehistoric creatures.

This does not mean you don't believe in God or a higher power. Again, you can believe in evolution, but what's important (so i'm told) is that you also realise that at one point, God came to us and gave man a human soul. Next time read a little slower and don't take it so personal....

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Originally posted by scooby757:
No one took a shot at my earlier question???
Oh well, here's another;

If you entertained the thought of a "god" creating
"everything" from scratch, out of "nothing". Think about the tremendous amount of complexity in the design of just the "living" creations. The details tended to in bodily functions alone is mind-boggling. It seems as though examples of truely masterful planning and thought processes are evident everywhere. Yet, one of your "creations" develops a "glitch". Sin. So, as master, creator, of all that there is, anywhere, you decide that no personal visits to all men at once are necessary to quell the problem. No, you won't "stop the world", and everything in it for the VERY short time [with all the TREMENDOUS power at your command] it would take to "remind" EVERYONE of their "roots", and the proper way to indeed...live. And after 4000 years or so of sin, "build up", if you will, you decide the best plan is to make a virgin pregnant with your son so that he may die for their sins? Why would something like that be required if you are the "creator"? Why would it even work? Your sacrifice??? Why do YOU have to sacrfice? [your son] You're GOD!! It just seems like such a haphazard way of getting your point across after all you've acomplished before.

I feel like going on here, but you most likely see what I mean by now. I'm REALLY NOT trying to offend any body here. I don't think you are crazy, or stupid if you believe. I'm just throwing
out a thought on the subject that troubles me. Why would something SOOO all powerful be reduced to using a "flawed" creation, [man kind here] to comunicate with the other flawed creations over the centuries [man kind again] to get his message out???
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Let's first understand that man turned his back on God. Man was created faultless. Sin ruined that. Once God created people with free will, sin was up to them. Why was it this way?

Well, without the possibility of sin, we would not have been human. Would the world be without hate? Yes. Without suffering? Yes. But also a world without love, which is the highest value in the universe. Real love-for God and each other-must involve a choice. But with the granting of that choice comes the possibility that people would choose to hate rather than love.

I think you should do as he says, I mean the creationists have been the ones answering the questions so far, and they have done a good job.

I have an idea why don't you make a list of five things that you feel are "Proof" or strong reasons to believe in evolution. Make reference to your sources and address it to one of us then give us some time to reply because work, school, life does not always permit us to be on the board.

Really!!! Why?

Maybe we could take this discussion to email? Mine is blitzkrieg53@hotmail.com

I would reccommend two books for some people to read...

1. The Face That Demonstrates The Farce of Evolution By Hank Hannegraaf

2. The Case For Faith By Lee Strobel.

These will answer all of your questions. And the second one is a darn good read! It covers many objections of faith. Maybe one of you tough cookies could learn a thing or two...
In case you are scared, there are actual SCIENTISTS interviewed which offer lots of evidence for creation and God's existance.

Because there's no mention of them anywhere. There's no mention of anything before the creation story. And the creation story only mentions man and mammals (man and dinosaurs did not walk the earth at the same time). So, if you believe the Bible is 100% fact, then you believe that these creatures do not exist....You believe that in 7 days...well six days plus one day of rest, God created the earth, sun, moon, stars, man and all the animals on earth, which is false.

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Actually, the Bible says,

Gen. 1:24"And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind. ^25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. "

There you go...not just mammals...Oh...notice that it was good...And not our measure of good, but God's. Meaning that it needed no improvement.

i dont see the contradiction there may have been beasts created after adam...the beasts of the earth were made before adam....adam was made to tend the earth (garden) and he named the animals....then eve came along and then mtv