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OK here SC $3500 + larger injectors + dyno tuning for your CUSTOM chip + labor + additional parts + any unforseen problems = ALOT MORE MONEY THAN A TURBO DESIGNED FOR YOUR CAR AT THE SAME HP LEVEL.

but it's your money if you really want to see if you can get it to work go for it.
IF you can get it to work that's cool hope it's worth all the time money and efforts for the gains you get.
and with that said I'm done with this topic.


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OK here SC $3500 + larger injectors + dyno tuning for your CUSTOM chip + labor + additional parts + any unforseen problems = ALOT MORE MONEY THAN A TURBO DESIGNED FOR YOUR CAR AT THE SAME HP LEVEL.

but it's your money if you really want to see if you can get it to work go for it.
IF you can get it to work that's cool hope it's worth all the time money and efforts for the gains you get.
and with that said I'm done with this topic.
I was going (and have) to get the chip dyno tuned and bigger injectors for the turbo kit anyway. Also the SC is $2500 not $3500. wink

What I don't understand is why you keep on saying that I shouldn't do it and saying this and that won't work. If nobody tries it we will never know. I have been researching and I might just have one in car before I buy one. wink There are going to be the same issues as a TC (more fuel, etc) so why not try the SC for the lesser of the two moneywise. Especially if I get the same gain. I like the drivability, dependability, and emissions friendiness of the SC. THAT is why I am trying it.

I have no MTX to rev up to the boost range with TC so there WILL be turbo lag. I won't have to change anything on the exhaust (*cough* Header *cough*) for backpressure issues on the TC. I won't have emissions problems when that comes up (stupid IL) Do you want any more reasons why I a doing this?


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I was going (and have) to get the chip dyno tuned and bigger injectors for the turbo kit anyway. Also the SC is $2500 not $3500. wink
At this point, all the reasons not to do it boil down to the idea that it was $3500, not $2500. If it is in fact $3500, he has a valid point. If it's $2500, you're making a lot of sense. Just take some careful clearance measurements and research the intake manifold bolt pattern, and you're there.

(EDIT) Oh, I just thought of something. Does the focus have its alternator in the same place ours is? I wonder about this because ours is right between where that supercharger goes, and the serpentine belt that presumably is what powers it.


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At this point, all the reasons not to do it boil down to the idea that it was $3500, not $2500. If it is in fact $3500, he has a valid point. If it's $2500, you're making a lot of sense. Just take some careful clearance measurements and research the intake manifold bolt pattern, and you're there.

(EDIT) Oh, I just thought of something. Does the focus have its alternator in the same place ours is? I wonder about this because ours is right between where that supercharger goes, and the serpentine belt that presumably is what powers it.
guess looks like ANOTHER ISSUE one didn't think of... even if it is ONLY $2500 and then add in ALL the custom parts is will move REAL quick past the cost of the turbo.
BTW hector who do you know what can custom burn a chip for you for this... and why haven't you sent me to him since diablo and superchips don't make one for my code?


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Ok Im going to step in Hector's side of the ring here. First off, the alternator does not pose a problem, JC supplies a custom mount with the kit. Dont believe me? Look at this:


Still dont believe me? You have mad probs.

Second. As a fellow ATX owner I would take the SC over the TC in a flash. The TC provides twice the installation work if not more, which in turn increases the total price.

Third. The plumbing recuired with the TC adds overall weight to the car, lowering the performance. On top of that, the plumbing most likely requires the battery to be relocated which further increases the total price.

Fourth. If im not mistaken the TC requires the oil pan to be tapped. What does that mean? In laymens terms, an increase in the total price.


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Hector!!! Get the suprcharger!! Enough said!! Plus you will have to show me how to do the install when I purchase one for the Focus. Remember the guy who Kevin and I told you about could probally help us out a little with the install if needed. I will call him and see how much he wants for the install. Little Joe, why would Hector tell you where he can get a chip custom burned for you when all you ever do is put down his ideas for his car. You always contradict everything he says! I have an idea Joe. Start reading up a little more and actually try some things yourself. You will find out this is better than reading brouchures and manuals!!! Hector! Get the supercharger!!!!!! laugh laugh

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Ok... breathe...

Joe and Hector are having a back and forth... let them.

This is good for all of us to see some of the issues and remedies for an SC.

As far as the cost, the installation of the TC kit can only be done by one person (HMS) correct? And that installation requires tearing the engine down to the head. Does the $3500 for the TC include installation, transportation and a rental while the work is being done?

Didn't think so...

Granted, Hector isn't too far from Terry but...


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Ok... breathe...

Joe and Hector are having a back and forth... let them.

This is good for all of us to see some of the issues and remedies for an SC.

As far as the cost, the installation of the TC kit can only be done by one person (HMS) correct? And that installation requires tearing the engine down to the head. Does the $3500 for the TC include installation, transportation and a rental while the work is being done?

Didn't think so...

Granted, Hector isn't too far from Terry but...
tery told me on a good motor the 200hp kit dosn't require any engine teardown.


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Champagne 96 GL MTX some mods
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[b]Ok... breathe...

Joe and Hector are having a back and forth... let them.

This is good for all of us to see some of the issues and remedies for an SC.

As far as the cost, the installation of the TC kit can only be done by one person (HMS) correct? And that installation requires tearing the engine down to the head. Does the $3500 for the TC include installation, transportation and a rental while the work is being done?

Didn't think so...

Granted, Hector isn't too far from Terry but...
tery told me on a good motor the 200hp kit dosn't require any engine teardown.[/b]
Get the story straight please. The turbo kit comes with a decompression gasket for the heads. wink With the SC and the 4 psi of boost decompression is not an issue until I raise the boost(smaller pulley wink ) So let's see I can bolt on the SC but Terry would have to install the TC. Wonder what is gonna cost more?


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Would you two just have sex already? Gawd, you bicker like you're married! :p


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