Louder you say? There is hope for the ATX zetec. I have lots of friends who drive decked out civics and stuff, they all tell me that zetec contours are slow and are useless but i have had better luck with mine. I mean, I don't want to talk about racing because i know it is against forum policy but i drive a long distance to college every day and sometimes my racing fever kicks in....i know i am not the only one......all others with racing fever please stand up. I can't wait for my tour to be one bad AZZ mofo. I am also a mod-aholic with no money.well, what can ya do :rolleyes: