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lmfao,incase no one has noticed most of what all you guys are saying is based almost entirely off of assumtion.everyone nows what assumtions cause.you are all argueing because you think the others are insulting your intelligence.IMO

BTW:look at the facts there are 2.0L
I-4=200hp Acura RSX,then you have a 2.5L v-6=200hp(well you know),then a 4.6L v-8 that puts out a meager 265 Mustang GT. thats only 57hp/L.and look at the prices for those.

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lmao. redhawk, you're still posting. AND counting my words. you're pathetic dude.
just WHAT are you posting ABOUT? laugh


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lmfao,incase no one has noticed most of what all you guys are saying is based almost entirely off of assumtion.everyone nows what assumtions cause.you are all argueing because you think the others are insulting your intelligence.IMO

BTW:look at the facts there are 2.0L
I-4=200hp Acura RSX,then you have a 2.5L v-6=200hp(well you know),then a 4.6L v-8 that puts out a meager 265 Mustang GT. thats only 57hp/L.and look at the prices for those.

BTW:I can pi$$ farther than you :p
All right son? this was a discussion of the V8 in general. You want to attack the GT specifically? I?ll play your silly pissing game.

2002 GT
260 hp / 302 torque
X-Plan (Invoice) price = $22,700

You have 110lb torque in your Honda??? Do you have trouble with hills? I don?t even waste my time with Civic?s, maybe a S2000? I?ve already killed a CL Type-S in a heads-up race. I do have respect for the Zetec, but your Honda can kiss my factory true-duals.

Rice Boy, you got a slip?
My car is #174 and I got beat by a LS1, my car is bone stock:


Oh?Yeah, one more reason a like V8?s and Stangs:

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[b]lmfao,incase no one has noticed most of what all you guys are saying is based almost entirely off of assumtion.everyone nows what assumtions cause.you are all argueing because you think the others are insulting your intelligence.IMO

BTW:look at the facts there are 2.0L
I-4=200hp Acura RSX,then you have a 2.5L v-6=200hp(well you know),then a 4.6L v-8 that puts out a meager 265 Mustang GT. thats only 57hp/L.and look at the prices for those.

BTW:I can pi$$ farther than you :p
All right son… this was a discussion of the V8 in general. You want to attack the GT specifically… I'll play your silly pissing game.

2002 GT
260 hp / 302 torque
X-Plan (Invoice) price = $22,700

You have 110lb torque in your Honda??? Do you have trouble with hills? I don't even waste my time with Civic's, maybe a S2000… I've already killed a CL Type-S in a heads-up race. I do have respect for the Zetec, but your Honda can kiss my factory true-duals.

Rice Boy, you got a slip?
My car is #174 and I got beat by a LS1, my car is bone stock:


Oh…Yeah, one more reason a like V8's and Stangs:

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Codeo- ouch.

tbunder- yet another lame "I'll always have a comeback even if it makes me sound like a moron."

Yeah I counted the words in your post. :rolleyes:

Actually I stopped reading after the first two sentences- since history shows you never have anyhting beneficial or noteworthy to add.


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burgman- im impressed. those ls1's are damn fast. your gt is pretty damn fast. good choice


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RX-7's don't have four cylinders, they have rotary engines. low displacement: yes, four cylinder: no.

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I know of a 1.5L Honda that runs 7.23seconds and my friends RX-7 runs 9.7's in quarter mile.


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do you even think about what you're saying before you post it?

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and for those of you who are taking some of my quotes out of context about respect for the zetec, you need to re-read my original post (if you know how to read at all). i like it for what it was built for-good mpg, long life, decent performance for a crappy 4-banger with no size or breathability.
there's nothing crappy about the zetec engine, which explains its use in many european and several american fords. compared to a v8, it is cheaper to operate, more efficient, etc. having "no size" is part of being a four cylinder. they are typically small engines.

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i dont respect it for anything concerning torque, horsepower, drag racing, throw you back in the seat acceleration, etc.
lol...as previously mentioned, the problem with the zetec in the contour is that the contour is too heavy for it to be fast. if placed into a lighter car, it would be pretty fast with exactly the same engine as the contours have. again, the output of most four cylinders typically isn't very high unless they are turbo'd. more displacement = more hp, and four cylinder engines lack displacement. again, part of being a four cylinder.

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sure, you can dump $20000 into it and make it fast, but do you even really have a zetec left after this is done?
i'm pretty sure you do, you have a turbo zetec.

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a zetec doesn't come with a turbo.
not true. they have turbo rally zetecs in europe, which "come" with a turbo.

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a true wrencher will make one's car fast WITHOUT adding a turbo or s/c.
says who? turbo's or s/c's simply even the playing field for four cylinders a bit.

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maybe cutting the intake in half and honing the inside out to a mirror finish, stuff like that. cams, pistons, larger air intake, exhaust. this turbo crap on an engine that doesn't even offer one as an option is ludicrous to even brag about.
again, this is an opinion. speed is speed, no matter how you get to it. but for people that think like you, there are different classes for turbo'd cars, etc. i think turbocharging a car that doesn't come with one can be quite a feat, especially if it's an aftermarket application, as you have to lower the CR, etc.

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that's like an indy car asking to race in a formula 1 race. or a corvette owner bringing his turbo's or s/c'd C5 to a corvette meet bragging how fast it is when everyone else has the original engine. sure its fast, but its not really an LT1 engine or whatever they use now.
they have LS1 engines now, and i believe if somebody had a supercharged LS1, it'd still be an LS1. if they bragged to everybody about how fast it was compared to a stock LS1, i believe it'd still be true. i agree they wouldn't be in the same class though.

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if you want to brag about how fast your zetec is, do so without saying "oh, i put a turbo on mine", or "when i get my turbo on, i may be able to smoke a Mark VIII." it just isn't impressive. now, when you take an oem turbo engine, and make IT faster, then ill respect you. but adding one to a car that doesn't even come with one, WHO CARES. that's cheating. i could add a turbo to a taurus wagon and smoke your turbo's zetec. then i also wouldn't look like every other contique owner either.
i think making the same or more power than a v8 with a turbocharged four cylinder is impressive, considering the four cylinder has a ton less displacement. just the idea is impressive. what's the difference between an OEM "turbo engine" and an aftermarket car that's turboed? not much of one, except that the factory put it on instead of you. the concept of what you're saying there just doesn't make any sense. it's a turbo either way you look at it, and i think it'd be more difficult for you to put it on yourself than the factory putting it on for you, so wouldn't you have more respect for the person who did it theirself? again, it's not cheating. it's another form of power, and is in a different class than NA engines, that's all.


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Oh…Yeah, one more reason a like V8's and Stangs:
i agree man, chicks dig mustangs. i've never found a girl that doesn't like mustangs. that reason alone isn't gonna make me go out and buy one though. i'd rather buy a car (i'm certainly not referring to a zetec contour here, unless maybe it was turbo'd laugh ) that can beat mustangs just so i can see the look on the driver's face when he's with his girlfriend trying to impress her.


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uh... burgman... way to go buddy, you have completely proven your intelligence to this board.

contour owners- why do you waste your time? v8 hicks who weigh as much as their cars come in here and bash you, when they don't even have a legitimate argument.

these v8 owners are most likely 350lb. slobs who don't really even own mustangs, ride the bus to work (which, if they even work, is in construction.)

for those of you cleancut, none-slob v8 and mustang owners, you are completely excluded from these generalizations. but you do need to learn a lot about respect. don't be jealous because your v8 loses to a l4. respect the person who made their car faster than yours on 1/3 the displacement.

whoever made the comment about the american idea being "it's not fast enough, bigger engine", I agree with you 100%. the reason is that the people (not all, but most) know nothing about their cars, so a bigger engine is the easiest and only way they know to get more power.

burgman- i wish i lived closer to you. I would love to race.

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Hi MaTTZ!
I love it when I get flamed, that means I got to you? Pretty good for words on the Internet.

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but i just hate it when people have a false sense of their cars, like people who drive 3.8 litre mustangs and such. i am an import fanatic, and get defensive whenever anyone talks about them ( i drive a twin turbo 300zx) don't worry about what i say, like the gatorman said, i'm not worth it, whatever the hell that meant. i can tell he's a winner...
So you?re an ?import fanatic?? I guess that?s why you hate on Stangs?huh? Been beat by one too many have ya?

Mustang = American Icon for 37 years and counting, the TT300zx was pulled out of the US market after 4 years. One last question, do you respect the ZETEC?

BTW? I?m a redneck and proud of it hoss? Don?t let me get you alone out in woods of my beautiful home state of Georgia? squeal like a pig boy! LOL laugh


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