They are an absolutely disgusting tire. If you drive like a 90 year old women, and do not care about grip them buy them. They suck in the dry, they suck in wet weather, and mine wore out in 8000 miles.
I'm not trying to piss anybody off, I do find it strange that people on this site like them

I'm sure that they are an all around okay tire, but they don't handle well at all.
James