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I like to do some theoretical number crunching to see how I compare to other better autocrossers. It is always humbling.

I looked up the numbers for a couple of the guys I autocrossed against this weekend to see how they did at the Nationals. Heath with the CSP CRX finished 5th last year (1st in 99). John Darrow and his wife travel all over the southeast with their Miata. They are an older couple and are very good. But he still finished nearly last at the Nationals. I only say this to illustrate how great the competition is there. Also rrxp689 mentioned he ran against Jack Burns and did really well. Jack finished 4th last year in E Stock. I am also throwing in the times of the 1st place in B Stock and 1st place in G Stock for comparison. Times are the total of 2 courses in seconds:

Heath McMillan 5th CSP Honda CRX...106.050
Peter Raymond 1st B Stock 99 Miata.108.567
John Darrow 50th B Stock 99 Miata.117.530
00 Celica GT-S 26th G Stock......117.272
Jack Burns 4th E Stock Celica GT.114.588
David Fauth 1st G Stock Type R...112.948

At yesterday's race, John Darrow (time shown above) ran 2.5 seconds faster than me with Kuhmo autocross tires. With autocross tires, I am fairly confident I could have equaled his time. Carrying that logic a step further, I could probably have equaled his time at the Nationals as well. If I had it would have put me around 26th in a field of 40 plus. Not good. But you will note the Celica GT-S that did finish 26th was the top placing car of its make in the field, yet was slower than Jack Burns 140 hp Celica GT.

The point is a well driven 99 or 2000 SVT Contour with autocross tires, shocks and every other legal modification could be nationally competitive in G stock after the Type R goes to D Stock next year. Except for 5 or 6 cars, nearly every car faster than 26th was a Type R Integra.