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#269571 04/17/01 07:31 PM
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Just a couple of questions for those of you who have been racing AutoX for a while. Let me preface these by saying that I have a ?98 SVT and am eager to run Gstock with street tires.

I noticed that short throw shifter are legal for STS, so I was wondering if its use would bump me from Gstock. I also noticed that pedal covers are okay for STS?by the same token, would their use eliminate me from Gstock?

I also have a KKM?am I going to have to remove it?

What kinds of ?mods? are legal under the Gstock rules? This may seem like a silly question to those of you who have been running in this class for some time, but as a newbie (and lacking the Solo II rulebook at that) I am at a loss. What I am getting at here are ?little? things that might either aid in power delivery or enhance reliability. (i.e. are Magnecor/Taylor wires out? Synthetic Oil?)

Thanks in advance for the input.


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#269572 04/17/01 08:51 PM
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Rule of thumb is if it isn't mentioned in the rules you cannot do it.

Oil, Plugs and Wires I believe are 'free' you can do with them what you want.

you can mess with the FRONT Anti-Sway bar only. The rear has to stay stock.

You can change the struts but not the springs. Double adjustable is the best you can do.

the KKM has to come off for the Stock Air box to remain GStock. You can run a K&N Filter in the stock air box. (there has been a very good argument that a K&N in the box will run better than a KKM under SOME circumstances such as AutoX (Low speed, high under hood temps)

You can have a Cat Back exhaust system as long as you are within legal sound limits.

You can run different wheels but the offset must be within 1/2" of stock AND the tire cannot stick out from under the wheel well (no you cannot roll the fenders). The wheel width and diameter must remain stock, but you can run a lighter wheel.

You can change your brake pads and you can run GS with R-Compound tires.

There is debate as to if it is legal for a SE-V6 Contour to run SVT parts seeing that they are both in the same class. On a local level honesty is the best policy. Chances are that the Type R guys and the BMW guys aren't gonna care if an SE has the SVT intake track, springs and struts. But the Tech Inspection people may care.

All-in-All IMHO it is better to run a lightly modded contour with Street Tires in STS than in GStock against Type Rs on R Compound tires.

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Well, first things first. It is the driver's responsibility to classify his own car. It is not the tech inspector's job to classify everyone or verify class legality. That comes about in the event of a protest by another competitor. But by default, most tech inspectors are fluent in classes and will classify you accordingly. That said, you won't find many people looking for things like a shorter shifter but if it would bother you to be "found out" later as running a mis-classed car, run it in the class you believe it to be in.

As for SVT parts, the rulebook says you can update/backdate among cars on the same line BUT you have to do the whole assembly all or nothing. For instance installing an SVT throttle body and intake would be legal if it also included the lightweight flywheel and all the other parts that make an SVT engine what it is. In ESP land you can put on the whole 5.0 Cobra package, heads, intake, TB, etc and it's legal but just the intake is not. Makes a ton of sense, rigth? Well, who's looking anyway? Go ahead and do it locally but as you go up the ranks to divisionals and nationals you run a bigger risk of protest.

I'm babbling but as I read the rulebook recently I was ASTOUNDED at what you could get away with in the stock classes and at the same time what you could NOT get away with. You can get away with almost wholesale replacement of shocks and bushings but you can't have a non-stock appearance package. The pedal covers are illegal for Stock.

Go here for more details:

www.best.com/~mouton/sccasolo/Rules/stock.html

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Heres another question. I read the GS rules and it says that mods to the exhaust downstream of header OR cat (if so equiped) are OK, but no change to cats.

How about the MSDS Y-pipe (installing soon). The cats are all stock (not doing the headers now). It would be legal apparently if not for the cat to do a Y-pipe. I would think the spirit of the rule would say OK. But, what would the officials likely say? So far, I have just the drop in K&N, & Bassini catback - everything else stock.

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#269575 04/19/01 02:59 AM
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Just got my Grassroot Motorsports today and found a small clip that the SCCA is putting the WRX in G-stock, so us po-folk with our stock V-6 SE's are sol anyway! So how much DOES that supercharger cost anyway! cp


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#269576 04/24/01 10:16 PM
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I think it was 3500 last time I checked.

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#269577 04/25/01 11:02 AM
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I just checked results from the last AutoX in the Tarheel Sports Car Club and the Toyota Celica GTS really racked up in G-Stock. It also seems that some older GS car/drivers moved to STS to avoid the GTS and Type Rs in GS now. No Subies here yet but it is only a matter of time. STS looks to be the ticket unless you wanna run R Compound tires.


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When I raced this weekend, I stepped into GST, which classes me with the GS cars, but only those equipped with street tires. It rained, so I was a bit outclassed by the Talon turbo AWDs, but I had fun. Is this category not open to all of you as well? I am still fuzzy on a lot of these classifications and such, so please pardon my ignorance.


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#269579 04/25/01 10:30 PM
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Most places don't run that Class...

either STS or GS not GST

Sucks for most of us.

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I think you should consider STS the one mod that really matters in autocross rubber is where youll get killed in G-stock. If your racing street tire race against street tires.
All the headder mods etc really wont matter as for the most part you probably wont get out of second gear. If you were to tip the scale in your favor get the quaiffe, then add a set of bfg-r1s and say some Konis. In my opinion these would be your best mods and make your car a contender, even with the type-r and BMWs

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