Everyone seems to be worried about loosing the forums. Why? Just go to Yahoo Groups and set one up for free, or join one of the many Contour groups (some already set up by CEG members) that are there now. The tech info from this site will be archived, so I don't see where all these tears are coming from. Just move on. Someday Lance will look back at this and kick himself, but that's not our problem. I think all of us should suggest and agree on a group name, then go to Yahoo and set it up. All of you out there who have been so gung-ho to keep this site going, well, now it's time to step up and volunteer your services as moderators. We can set up a group (or a series of related groups that reflect how the forums are broken down now) and move there at least temporarily until the situation with this site gets resolved.