Well throw my name in the hat that feels extremely sad that it has come to this. Thanks to all for the advice on going halfway across the country to buy an SVT. It was scary, but all of you who responded with good wishes to me, I thank you. There will be a big void in everyone's life for a while. I guess we will carry on and do the best we can. Isn't it funny how these types of forums, this means of communication that has woven it's way into our daily routine? What will the scientists of future generations say of how there were these 8000 people that mostly never met. How everyone looked forward to reading comments about cars, their wives, husbands, families everyday. ANd then somehow something happened. People started bickering, immature statements started creeping in people's replies. How people were hurt by snyde remarks, again from people who mostly-never met. Very sad.