Sorry to hear this... but it makes sense. Having been a long-time member, I agree the forums are no longer functional, except as a form of entertainment. See.... The Contique is out of production now, going on three years, most of the original new car owners either have learned and said all they have to say, or moved on to other things. The questions are always the same old, same old.. and since no-one wants to use my "130mph brake cleaning method" anyway... :rolleyes: Thank you Lance, for the chance to share some car interest with a whole lot of folks. Hope the main page Contour.org can survive... but I saw this coming.... Good Luck, Best Wishes, Elizabeth