BTW, I discovered by accident how a tight turn will kill the engine from oil starving... Corners good enough to put your co-pilots head into the window if you're not careful.
HE HE HE- Ive done both of those as well!
And to answer your original question:
Could I get some of your opinions on which you think would win on a road course.
Not opinion but facts right? well the tour would- if it were an SVT hands down- but the ES300 was never a sports car- and its always been a very bad handler as far as "spirited" driving- on a long road trip however the ES300 would eat up the tour! but as far as on a road course the tour would win the day.
