Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 70
C
Member
OP Offline
Member
C
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 70
1. I drove the regular Mondeo.

Just came back from a three-week vacation on the Spanish Costa del Sol (Marbella). I chose Hertz because I knew they have Ford fleet cars and I wanted to drive a Mondeo. I got a silver Hatchback 2.0 Di with a diesel (!) engine (Hertz had no gasoline cars, the price of the gasoline fuel is about three times higher than in NA). I drove it for about 2000 miles.

First impressions: it is a «big» car! It is roomier than the previous (Contour) models with lot of rear and trunk spaces. It looks like a fat Focus to the point that it is sometimes confusing. For some reason nevertheless, the controversial Ford edge design is less bothering on the Mondeo. Maybe because it is bigger. The Mondeo also looks like a VW Passat and in fact sometimes, in the parking lots, I wondered why my remote did not open the doors: I was trying in fact to get in a same colour Passat! According to a European car magazine, the Mondeo is indeed a «copy» of the Passat. BTW the parking spaces in Europe are designed for much smaller cars. The previous drivers have scratched the car all around and I tried very hard not to add some of my own scratches...

Although it was a 90 HP diesel engine, it is a surprisingly nervous and quick car with great handling. I enjoyed driving the car both on the highways and on the mountain roads. The clutch is smooth, as is the shifting. However the 4-cylinder engine coupled with the diesel create an annoying truck-like noise at low rpm.

Even if it is a fleet car, this is what you get (and what we don't get on our stripped cars!): six airbags, a radio with an in-dash 6 CD player (my burned CDs that my stock radio refuses to play worked fine in the Mondeo), a volume and CD controls on the steering wheel, an automatic digital climate control, a complete instrumentation panel with a tachometer, an outside temperature indicator, brushed aluminium parts on the dashboard, the console and on the steering wheel, a retractable in-dash cup holder that «holds» cups and bottles and another one in the centre console, an analogue clock, front and rear fog lights, electric windows with four one-touch buttons, remote fuel control, a stability control system (ESP), illuminated passenger and driver mirrors, illuminated glove and engine compartments, three adjustable headrests in the back as well as a centre armrest that separates the folding back seats. Of course the car is equipped with ABS and 4-wheel disk brakes.

The car I drove had 16" wheels with Pirelli P6000 tires, which provide a reasonably comfortable ride. Another surprise for me was to discover that the spare tire was a full size tire.

Guess what. Did you notice that the thin carpet sheet that covers the trunk floor in our cars does not sit very well on the trunk floor? On the European models, as in the current Mondeo, the trunk carpet is backed with a 3/4" thick material and the whole carpet sits on 2" rubber that covers the trunk metallic floor. This surely reduces the road noise.

The seats are firm and are covered with a nice two-tone fabric. The front bucket seats are very comfy, as is the centre console armrest that covers a cleverly designed space for both cassettes and CDs. The driver seat height can be electrically adjusted.

I surely forgot other features but you get the picture of what the Europeans get in their cars and what we don't get on ours!

2. I test drove the new Mondeo ST220.

While in Marbella I visited a Ford dealer and asked to test-drive the new Mondeo ST220. This is quite a car my friends! The one I tested just arrived to the dealer. It was black with a black interior and red Recaro seats. This is a completely different car than the regular Mondeo and does not belong to the same league. Those of us who own an SVT will love the ST220. I tell you, if this car makes it to North America, I'll be driving it! With its 3.0 litre 220hp engine, it is much more powerful than the SVT and has much more torque but you can recognise the CSVT characteristics in the handling and the responsiveness. I could not (because the salesman would not allow me) push the car beyond 100 mph but this car is really capable of much more. I compare it favourably to the BMW 330i with a much modern styling and looks. Inside the car, you get what you always dreamed of: from every possible control to the metallic sport pedals and the front doors sills with the ST logo. On the outside, you get the 18" 16-spokes alloy wheels and the 240/40/18 tires that completely fill the wheel wells, xenon lights, special lowered front and rear bumpers with mesh grills, side skirts, dual exhaust tips. No side mouldings! But the ST220 has a very discrete spoiler as in the BMW M3.

While the regular Mondeo looks like (and is) an anonymous fleet car, the ST220 is definitely an eye-catching car as is the CSVT. However, the ST220 is higher and longer and the side skirts are more discrete than in the SVT. Because of that, the ST220 does not have that sporty look of the SVT with its more apparent ground effects. The ST220 has a combination of sport and luxury looks and the result is simply superb.

If the ST220 makes it to North America, expect to pay a lot more than for a regular Contour. Currently the Euro and the US dollar have about the same value with the Euro slightly higher by a couple of %. The base suggested retail price for the ST220 is 32 270 Euros. Some options are available such a sunroof, a cruise control, a navigation system, a distance sensor etc. which add to the base price. This is way up from the base price of a regular Mondeo of about 19 000 Euros. In fact, the ST220?s base price is close to that of the BMW 325i (32 600 Euros). The price of the BMW 330i (about the same hp) is however still higher (39 646 Euros). I already drove a 330i and I would say that the ST220 is at least as powerful, it is more fun to drive and it has a much more attractive look. This is obviously a personal opinion and Ford would probably have some difficulties convincing potential buyers to choose the ST220 instead of the BMW if these three letters represent an important parameter of the equation.

I hope that the ST220 will be brought to NA. If this happens, let us pray that Ford will not Americanise it beyond recognition!!


Captain Bart
1999 Black/Midnight Blue SVT
#1949/2760
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 229
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 229
Your a lucky man. I wish I could fly to Europe and test drive some cars too.


99 CSVT Green/Tan 13,700Km
# 84 of 2760

For Sale
96 Contour GL 2.5 ATX 120,000Km
K&N Air Filter
Mobile 1
E1 SVT Wheels & BFG G-Force Rubber
Aluminum Painted Front Grill
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 2,112
L
Moderator
Offline
Moderator
L
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 2,112
Now it's probably obvious why Ford stripped down the car the last time they brought it over. At that price, it just wouldn't be able to compete and would be out of place in their price lineup. Most people would think: why pay that much for a Contour, if I can get a bigger (remember, bigger = better) Taurus. And I'm sure many others would think, why pay that much for a Ford when I can get a BMW for a little more. Ford of Europe and Ford of NA are two very different companies courting two very different markets, and unfortunately it'll probably stay that way.

Nice review btw, wish I had one, though at that price, I'd rather buy an E36 M3 (see what I mean... :p )


-Louis
1998 Black E0 #3826, lightly modded
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 303
K
Member
Offline
Member
K
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 303
Great review, thanks! I'm jealous too. Would LOVE an ST220. Sounds awesome. Pics?

Kerry


99 SVT Contour Silver Frost, #365/2760
91 Isuzu Impulse XS Kammback, Handling By Lotus
Victoria, BC, Canada
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,950
L
Member
Offline
Member
L
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,950
Quote:
Originally posted by SVTCANUK:
Your a lucky man. I wish I could fly to Europe and test drive some cars too.
Hell yeah. I wanna test drive the RS Focus. laugh


2000 Contour Zetec ATX
Hector
Mods...I got em'
"Contour grills, Contour bills, check out the oil my Contour spills."
2.SLO = 17.6 at 80mph
My profile
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 4,983
P
Member
Offline
Member
P
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 4,983
Quote:
Although it was a 90 HP diesel engine, it is a surprisingly nervous and quick car with great handling. I enjoyed driving the car both on the highways and on the mountain roads. The clutch is smooth, as is the shifting. However the 4-cylinder engine coupled with the diesel create an annoying truck-like noise at low rpm.
Did someone say 90 hp diesel? laugh


P. Valdez

1998 VW Jetta TDI
1.9L I4 direct injection turbo diesel
5 speed manual
no mods, no money

AIM:PackRatTDI

My exhaust smells better than yours.
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,375
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,375
That was an excellent review!

How was the transmission?
We're you able to spin them off the line and pull 2nd to see the pull it had and was there a dip at 3200 RPM?

P.S. Your one lucky SUM OF A BITACHT!


99 SVT Tropic Green
#151 of 503/ 2760 total
Born on 10/07/98
Adopted 7/15/00
LETS GO RANGERS (looking good this year)
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 3,636
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 3,636
Just curious, do those prices include the VAT (Value Add Tax, I believe Spain has one of those, at about 16%, as do most European countries.)

If the price does include VAT, then the "North American" sticker would be about 85% of those prices, but then we add our taxes after the sale.

Just curious, and want to make sure we are comparing apples to apples.

TB


Tony Boner
Personal: 98cdw27@charter.net Work: tony.boner@sun.com
Saving the computer world from WinBloze as Unix/Solaris/Java Guru http://www.sun.com
1998 Contour SVT Pre-E1 618/6535 Born On Date: 4/30/1997
Now with Aussie Bar induced mild oversteer.
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 656
F
Member
Offline
Member
F
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 656
Say nice write-up! You should e-mail that to Jean Jennings (editor of Automobile Mag). You could be one the many part time contributors.
The more we can talk up the Mondeo, just maybe Ford might be influenced. It happened similar to Ford in 1954 concerning the T-Bird. Outsiders ramblings were picked up on by the design team and followed a hunch. Good thing or the T-Bird would have never happened.
Paul

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 70
C
Member
OP Offline
Member
C
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 70
Quote:
Just curious, do those prices include the VAT ...
Yes, the prices include taxes. I forgot to mention that.

According to the salesman, if I wanted to buy the ST220 tax free for exportation purposes, the price will be reduced by approximately 22%. Of course, one must add local sales taxes (here in Montreal we have the federal and the provincial taxes which add up to 15.6%). Then you have to add the transportation cost and probably additional customs fees.


Captain Bart
1999 Black/Midnight Blue SVT
#1949/2760
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  GTO Pete, Trapps_dup1 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5