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A little disappointed here...

Ran EBC GreenStuffs last weekend at Road Atlanta, they lasted for four 1/2 hour sessions and were gone. Pedal feel was poor, and they didn't hold well when hot. I'm running brake ducts to the fronts, using 550 fluid and braided steel lines, so I figure the weak link was the pads. Maybe I got a poor set, but only 2 hours of hard use and they're gone.
Ran KVR Carbon Fiber pads on Sunday, and was impressed. Ran six 30min sessions, no fade, better grip when hot, and still had pads left to last awhile. And could consistently brake 50m further into each corner.
Just some info for ya'll...

I have KVR's on mine and now that they are seated they rock! Much less dust as well.

-Andy

I have KVR's on mine right and I think they are the worst around the town driving. When cold my ABS keeps turning on and when it rains it is even worse. Raybestos pads going on Friday. I have a friend at Okebono Corp that is a brake systems engineer. The only thing better than OEM's are Raybestos pads. Before everyone thrashes back at me I am talking about around town, not on the track. NO after market brake pad has to meet all the requierments that a OEM must do.

Just thought I would throw that out there...

Do Raybestos have as much dust as OEM? I am concerned about around town driving also, but I hate the dust.

That dust pissing me off. That's why I went with the KVR's. They said lite dust. ha ha
I have as much dust with the poor performing KVR's as I did with the OEM's. Went to purchase the Raybestos, quiet stops" today and to my findings they do not make them for the SVT. That's BUllsh*t. And what has been told to me is no they do not have as much dust as OEM's. Raybestos does make a pad for the SVT but it is not the quiet stop. My buddy said the other pad works just as good but very loud. I went back to the OEM today. I will put up with the dust (since I have to) just want the pedal feel back. Plus, I haven't been able to ride anyone's bumper with the KVR's. I miss that as well. They would not stop me in time for the sudden brake check from the guy in front.

The "normal" Raybestos pads are CRAP! Be glad that you didn't get them. I was all too happy to get them off of my car. The Mintex A/F pads were much better for around town driving, but they fade like a sumb!tch when you get on em for a while.

And they were even dustier than the Ford pads. And they were red which clashed with my yellow and black speckled calipers! (bought SVT brakes used, calipers came yellow, I tried to paint em black, brake fluid on the caliper changed that plan and gave me a nice speckled pattern that I don't care about). And they could get noisy at times, same as Ford's pads.

The Mintex A/F pads are slightly less dusty than OEM pads and I haven't heard a peep out of them.

I have some experience with Raybestos Super Stop pads...on another vehicle. They worked as well as stock, but were more dusty.

The Raybestos rotors worked great for me.

HTH
Mike

I've had my ABS come on once in about a month now. These are by far my favorite bads.

Did you resurface your rotors when you put the on. I did. I broke them in real nice too.

-Andy

Did anyone here know that there are FOUR versions of the Greenstuff pad from EBC? Read MaxPower UK and they mention that the new V4 compound has better resistance to heat and longer life than previous versions. I don't know which version they have been selling here in the US.

For track use I would stay away from Greenstuff and try Blackstuff or Yellowstuff pads. Higher heat range pads for higher heat range applications. Greenstuff are designed for Auto-x and street use only. Good initial bite, limited heat range. The KVR's seem to have work better in a higher heat range. Thats why they are not great when cool, but hold up to extended track sessions. Just my $.02

Alex in Boulder, CO
95SE MTX
157hp 151tq before latest mods...

I think the Greenstuff are more for Road/Race application.

If your using them for strictly track use, I think you would be best off to use the EBC Redstuff. I haven't looked into whether they make them for our cars, I would suspect so.

I have heard that the KVR's are better on the track but for road use they aren't as good as the Greenstuff. They also have a warmup time unlike the EBC's, which might pose a problem for the average driver.

I have a set of Greenstuff, and they work fine for road use, I haven't tested them at the track though. However the brake dust was not reduced like it was supposed to be, but oh well.

Later